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Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by trothamel on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @06:55PM (#8524167)
The first stage engines that exploded were AJ-26 engines. These are remanufactured NK-33 or NK-43 engines built in the Soviet Union in the late-60s or early-70s for the N-1 moon rocket, but never used.

In May, an AJ-26 exploded on the test stand at Stennis space center in Mississippi, severely damaging the test stand.

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by ianstallings on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @07:14PM (#8524298)
These engines were talked about in the documentary *The Engines That Came In From The Cold"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbl_ofF3AM

I watched it on netflix myself. Fascinating stuff.

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by codeonfire on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @12:42AM (#8525589)
The part at 42:00 makes it sound like the engine is/was considered sort of a gamble. I wonder what the current thought on this engine is.
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by azurezyq on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @08:24PM (#8524679)
Even in the computer field, picking up a 30-year-old unmaintained project is very hard, original designers gone, everything around it retired, use case changed and maybe some tricks may never be known.

As for these engines, they're currently retrofitted with new kind of fuel, new electronics and some modifications, after 30 years, by a totally different team.

I really don't think this kind of thing would work.

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by gresrun on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @07:06PM (#8524245)
Pure speculation but I wonder if they rushed to test the engines that just flew. AeroJet's parent company claims they have lost over $31MM on the AJ-26 YTD[1]. There may be pressure from higher-ups to push through the issue seen at Stennis in May.

[1] http://www.spacenews.com/article/financial-report/42180aeroj...

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by adamfeldman on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @07:15PM (#8524306)
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by anigbrowl on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @07:07PM (#8524252)
I wonder if this is going to be a pressing problem, given the Russian's lack of enthusiasm for supplying more rocket gear while under sanctions and the dwindling stock in the US.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/david-a-deptula-the-russians-...

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by sedachv on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @03:45PM (#8529419)
AeroJet owns pretty much all of the existing NK-33 inventory and a license to manufacture them. The work for integrating the NK-33 into the Antares rocket was actually done by a Ukrainian firm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antares_%28rocket%29#Design
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by pbreit on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @11:56PM (#8525446)
It seems so bizarre that we're using 40 year old, Russian-made engines. I'm sure there are plenty of smart folks who will say not too worry, but I wonder.
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by Gravityloss on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @07:11AM (#8526538)
It is a fascinating case of uneven technological development.

The Soviet Union went so far with staged combustion engines in the sixties that that level of technology has not yet been reached elsewhere.

USA, Europe and Japan went with hydrogen staged combustion but that's quite different.

The ULA/Blue Origin decision about new indigenous US first stage engine development gets a huge boost from this problem.

It's just what can be reached when you put resources into it. Coming from the IT world it might seem strange that the investment has not lost its value, but it has not. It might be quite a lot easier to duplicate nowadays, but not child's play at all.

Sometimes it's chilling to think what kind of still secret projects were funded by the huge US defense budgets during the cold war. There are some public sides and declassified parts on things like very good glide ratio hypersonic vehicles, but officially they never went far and the space shuttle was the thing. ( http://www.456fis.org/THE%20B-52/FS-011-DFRC_popup6.jpg )

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by pbreit on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @01:44PM (#8528651)
I'm sure the core rocket technology is sound but I've gotta think the sensors and computational capabilities are literally decades out of date. Which is really where SpaceX has a commanding advantage, for example, being able to abort a launch at T-0 and reschedule for later that day having identified and corrected an anomaly.
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by CmonDev on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @05:01AM (#8526152)
Most of those smart folks are probably retired now - need more immigrants:

http://xkcd.com/984

Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by seanflyon on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @04:31PM (#8529718)
We have at lots of immigrants doing great work, such as Elon Musk.
Re:Orbital Sciences Antares rocket explodes after liftoff by lutorm on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @09:10PM (#8524893)
Was there any conclusion what the problem was in that incident?