Post Mortem: A single whitespace character

Re:Post Mortem: A single whitespace character by MichaelGG on Monday October 27, 2014 @07:02PM (#8518681)

SIP takes this to the next level. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4475 Is a spec for "torture tests", where the SIP authors revel in the hideously complex parsing rules they've come up with (which is basically HTTP parsing).

They even suggest that code should infer the meaning of messages. So I suppose you need some sort of AI to really handle things well.

Binary protocols would be a better choice. Or, a well-defined text format. JSON, XML, anything, really, would eliminate this class of bugs.

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Re:Post Mortem: A single whitespace character by sitkack on Monday October 27, 2014 @11:25PM (#8519405)

So SIP is like IRC?

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Re:Post Mortem: A single whitespace character by MichaelGG on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @01:23AM (#8519658)

I imagine IRC has the excuse of wanting the UI to be a simple line-based system, and thus in-band signalling is an unavoidable evil.

This same reasoning is why mail and other messages have the Header: Value format - you can compose in plain text. This is documented at least as far back as RFC 561, in 1973. Again, that's a good excuse: Users must compose by hand. Also, the RFC is just codifying what people were already doing.

HTTP, SIP, and others do not have these excuses. HTTP headers are essentially never written by hand, and the extremely few times they are, we don't need conveniences such as comments, line folding, lenient grammar, etc. (Proof: People write XML and JSON by hand far more often, without major ordeals.)

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