Why pro-systemd and anti-systemd people will never get along

Re:Why pro-systemd and anti-systemd people will never get along by bkor on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @04:04PM (#8489554)

You're conflicting things. GNOME doesn't rely on systemd, it wants an API (a few actually, but AFAIK the only difficult one is the bits from logind). The entire API is hard to implement. The parts that GNOME uses maybe can be implemented by someone else. Maybe not. Someone from GNOME tried to do that for FreeBSD but gave up after a while (problem was the lack of interest, difficulty combined with not being a *BSD person). KDE also will use a small part of logind in case you use libinput as well as Wayland. But again it doesn't rely on systemd, it wants a dbus API.

If someone makes something else, go for it. But API wise it is best to stay the same.

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Re:Why pro-systemd and anti-systemd people will never get along by e7620 on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @04:17PM (#8489649)

> GNOME doesn't rely on systemd, it wants an API

The problem is the following: GNOME depending on GTK+? Just an API.

Of course, it's not your fault, the problem is systemd developers don't want to separate the components as individual programs. So if you want to use logind you also have to install the whole systemd, requiring linux to boot. (pun not intended)

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Re:Why pro-systemd and anti-systemd people will never get along by the_why_of_y on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @06:37PM (#8490571)

There is a difference of several orders of magnitude in size and scope between the GTK+ API and the logind DBus interface.

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