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Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by untog on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @06:35AM (#8486728)
Mostly because the existing system works out pretty well for the "best" children. True, they might not be taxed to their full extent, but they will still be top of their class and progress to university.

And, not to sound too cynical about it, the parents of the "best" children tend to be very involved in their children's education, and might resist an experiment.

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by jtheory on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @07:33AM (#8486830)
I went through school always near the top, academically, but I wouldn't say I was well-served by the school system. My wife had much the same experience, though rather worse than mine; she very clearly remembers loving doing math with her older brothers when she was small, but schooling managed to replace that with almost a phobia of anything that looks like math.

Now we have small children, and they're obsessed with reading/writing, numbers, and creative play just like we were as kids -- so they're far ahead of their age group, generally -- but we've kept them out of school so far. We're trying to figure out a path for them through the available educational options, and we're strongly inclined towards more experimental approaches.

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by mpthrapp on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @10:16AM (#8487425)
If I can evangelize for a sec, I went to a Sudbury[1] school and I would highly recommend it. It's a very free environment and, as someone who is fairly self-motivated, it was amazingly helpful for me. There aren't a ton of locations, but if there's one near you, I'd recommend at least checking it out.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_school

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by tormeh on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @09:59AM (#8487331)
International schools are good, I hear. I mean, they're conventional, but they usually attract smarter student/parents. International baccalaureate is more high school, but I wish I had taken it.
Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by jtheory on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @05:24PM (#8490134)
Thanks for mentioning that -- we're familiar with the international baccalaureate; my wife went to the United World College in New Mexico.

It was completely different from her educational experience before that (not unstructured, but still... much more open-minded about education, and smart about guiding students to think about their place in the world) and the experience had a huge positive effect on her life; we are in touch (and in some cases, close friends) with a startling high percentage of her classmates there, and we've met up with (and often been hosted by) UWC classmates in Austria, Netherlands, India, Australia, France, Malaysia, and various parts of the US (and probably some other places I'm forgetting at the moment...). And despite being quite a diverse group, they're generally pretty interesting people to talk to.

I didn't even know such options existed when I was in HS; and probably would have thought it wasn't for me, at that age. But looking back now, I wish I'd gone as well.

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by InclinedPlane on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @09:17AM (#8487130)
Many of the smartest and most successful people I know were not well served by the traditional school system. For myself I only began to do well in school when I somehow managed to acquire the maturity, at 13, to realize that I needed to take education seriously and make use of the system. I went from being in several remedial classes in my freshman year of high school to near the top of my class at graduation and attaining a bachelor's degree at age 20. But it was a very close thing, and I've seen others with great intelligence who struggled in school.

And, to be frank, much of what I learned, at least half, while attending public school I learned on my own, independent of classes. But again, I was fortunate. Fortunate to still have faith in the system. Fortunate to have gone to a very high quality high school where I actually could get a decent education and where most of the teachers and faculty put education as their top priority (this is not necessarily the norm). Fortunate to have a home life that encouraged and facilitated reading and learning, as well as acquisition of reading materials. Fortunate that I had acquired maturity ahead of most folks at that age at a time when it was critical. Fortunate that I had not fallen in with "the wrong crowd" of people and ended up dropping out of school or getting into drugs or petty crime or what-have-you.

A lot of kids, smart kids, are not as lucky as I was. And if anything the system is even worse today. Teenagers' lives are more regimented, there's more busywork, there's less trust, the academic bureaucracy is more onerous, it's harder to escape peer pressure due to the ubiquity of social media, and so on.

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by DanBC on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @06:37AM (#8486733)
I'm not sure you can say that. And especially not of the schools of the 1970s and 1980s.

A lot of academically minded children would have been very poorly served by those schools. People getting to university would have been the children of upper and middle class parents who had money to afford private schooling or tuition or coaching to get into good grammar schools.

Re:The anarchic experimental schools of the 1970s by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @07:10AM (#8486790)
I think they are using a recursive definition of "best" to mean those who succeed under the current system whereas the original question posted seems to be defining "best" as the misfits who fail in the current system despite (or indeed because of) their aptitude.