OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use

Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by dcurtis on Friday September 25, 2009 @04:22PM (#844256)

Are you sure you want OpenID to get more exposure? It already failed once due to hideously poor execution and terrible usability problems. Attaching oauth doesn't seem to solve any of the big problems. It just masks them behind a protocol that works decently on it's own.

The OpenID promise sounds good in a geeky, technical sense, but judging from their past work, I do not trust the OpenID group to build anything remotely viable.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by jmillikin on Friday September 25, 2009 @04:30PM (#844280)

OpenID hasn't failed at all -- I've been noticing more and more sites allowing sign-ins using it, and even a few (primarily for tech audiences) which are OpenID-only.

Of course, there are a few sites which claim OpenID support but implement it poorly (such as news.yc), but that's not a reflection on the protocol.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by dcurtis on Friday September 25, 2009 @05:00PM (#844367)

I do not consider getting a tiny subset of the tech audience using OpenID a case for it being a success. In fact, it did that years ago and has gone nowhere since.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by jmillikin on Friday September 25, 2009 @05:26PM (#844431)

OpenID 2, which was the first version intended to be broadly useful outside of LiveJournal, was published less than two years ago. In that time, OpenID has gained support from every major identity provider and most major consumers. Anybody who uses LiveJournal, Wordpress, StackOverflow, or thousands of other sites can use OpenID instead of a traditional login.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by Andys on Friday September 25, 2009 @07:12PM (#844660)

Reality check: "most" major consumers is going too far

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by codemechanic on Friday September 25, 2009 @09:53PM (#844858)

http://www.codelathe.com/blog/index.php/2009/08/25/announcin.... Check out Tonido OpenID. It is a truly a decentralized, private OpenID provider.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by StrawberryFrog on Friday September 25, 2009 @06:09PM (#844536)

You're making a case that OpenId hasn't succeeded yet. that's not the same as making a case that it has failed.

Of course, success is subjective and relative. I see a little success every time I log in to stackOverflow via OpenId, or get a OpenId guest comment on LiveJournal.

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Re:OpenID: Now more powerful and easier to use by mscarborough on Friday September 25, 2009 @10:50PM (#844906)

Yes, I would like OpenID to get more exposure. Not just because I spent time implementing it for our site the first time around--they addressed the execution and usability problems with this new work, and I think it will be much more useful for non-technical users.

The OpenID Foundation folks did not just bolt OAuth onto the side and call it a day. One of the key new features is a protocol that allows the ability to stay on-site within a popup or other login, rather than being redirected to a third party, then back to your intended site.

I have not read the code yet to see exactly how it's different, but it seems to strengthen the attribute exchange as well for profile-type information. Most of the OpenID providers I've used are wildly divergent in how (and how many) attributes are exchangeable with the OpenID consuming site.

Do you not see these as fruitful improvements to the protocol?

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