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Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by SamReidHughes on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @10:23PM (#8430493)
Somebody exploiting your PDF reader can't upload all your email.
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by Touche on Thursday October 09, 2014 @12:16AM (#8430797)
That's not a model. What's the model that prevents this? User performs a 2-step auth every time code executes?
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by SamReidHughes on Thursday October 09, 2014 @12:28AM (#8430830)
Just pick one that gives the feature I described without being a pain to the user.
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by Touche on Thursday October 09, 2014 @12:55AM (#8430885)
I know of no such models. Perhaps someone smarter than me has thought of them, that's why I asked the question initially.
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by pjmlp on Thursday October 09, 2014 @07:26AM (#8431706)
Sandboxing, where each process is only allowed to use a precise set of system resources.

Any attempt to use anything else leads to termination.

Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by Touche on Thursday October 09, 2014 @09:42AM (#8432259)
Which resources are they allowed to use? What defines which resources they are given?
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by pjmlp on Friday October 10, 2014 @02:46AM (#8436551)
> Which resources are they allowed to use?

The system administrator at installation time.

> What defines which resources they are given?

Applications just have a request list of what they require.

If the administrator doesn't allow them for the given application modules (executable, dynamic library, function call,...), bad luck.

Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by SamReidHughes on Thursday October 09, 2014 @01:38AM (#8430971)
Sandboxing. It's present on OS X.
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by Touche on Thursday October 09, 2014 @09:44AM (#8432265)
I'm confused. The original person I responded to said that no desktop OSes had good security models. On OSX I can write a script that, when run as a user, has access to everything the user has access to. So what exactly are you talking about?
Re:Qubes – Secure Desktop OS Using Security by Compartmental... by SamReidHughes on Thursday October 09, 2014 @12:02PM (#8433201)
I'm talking about OS X sandboxing. The hypothetical PDF reader doesn't have access to the email.