Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by prostoalex on Friday October 03, 2014 @03:52PM
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So much of middle class net worth is tied to the value of real estate, the conversation is really about the trend in home prices, and whether one bought at the peak of the market.
The graph from that article http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2014/10/M... suggests median net worth was doing quite well up until 2007-2008.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by rhino369 on Friday October 03, 2014 @03:20PM
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The jobless rate is an indicator of difference between demand and supply for employees. With people out of work, of course salaries will shrink.
That will change when the jobless rate returns to normal.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by epicureanideal on Friday October 03, 2014 @03:27PM
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A very poor indicator, given that it doesn't count workers who have given up looking for a job because none were available.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by YokoZar on Friday October 03, 2014 @04:43PM
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This criticism of unemployment statistics is parroted whenever an unemployment discussion is had. But those discouraged worker numbers are tracked too. They tend to go together, and the recent news about hiring increases is not due to a massive increase in discouraged workers.
Sometimes there really is a net increase in employment.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by rhino369 on Friday October 03, 2014 @03:47PM
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If they gave up, they aren't really in competition.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by fludlight on Friday October 03, 2014 @03:47PM
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Some research suggests that happiness vis a vis personal wealth is determined by how much you have relative to your friends.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by r00fus on Friday October 03, 2014 @04:57PM
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In reality this is a problem. When everyone around you is making more, things tend to cost more - e.g. real-estate in silicon valley is atrociously expensive for what you get, so you need a solid dual income or high-earner single income to afford a house - as the aggregate of these go up, your ability to afford a house or an upgrade diminishes.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by afterburner on Friday October 03, 2014 @04:27PM
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That's why even the rich get more annoyed when inequality rises. They see those making more than them pulling away. The knee jerk reactions to this tend to make the problem even worse (eg. lower taxes, justified by reducing social security).
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by NewHermes on Friday October 03, 2014 @04:18PM
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That actually makes a lot of sense. I'll have to look at some studies.
Re:Jobless Rate in U.S. Falls Below 6% as Hiring Picks Up
by fludlight on Friday October 03, 2014 @06:22PM
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If you google my comment[1] you will find it[2-5].
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=research+suggests+that+happi... [2] http://www.usc.edu/dept/pubrel/trojan_family/winter07/happin... [3] http://vanneman.umd.edu/socy699J/GrahamP02.pdf [4] http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic620591.files/Indi... [5] Relative Income Hypothesis. I will leave the googling of this as an exercise for the reader.
Why should I care if the pie is getting bigger if I'm getting smaller peice at the end of the day?
Give me a smaller pie and a bigger peice of said pie anyday.