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Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by Achshar on Sunday September 28, 2014 @03:36PM (#8380696)
prostitutes? I could actually believe what you said until that point. Making a day computer-free is something a crazy startup CEO would do (I could actually see myself doing it but once a month maybe, definitely not once a week).
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by barnaby on Sunday September 28, 2014 @04:15PM (#8380784)
I recall reading that myspace in the super early days used to have prostitutes and cocain at their Christmas party.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by onedev on Sunday September 28, 2014 @05:06PM (#8380908)
The legal team must have sat that one out.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by GFK_of_xmaspast on Monday September 29, 2014 @08:30AM (#8382588)
Oh come on, stop it with this culture war stuff, you can still call them 'Christmas Parties'.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by dubcanada on Monday September 29, 2014 @02:39PM (#8384392)
I don't think that's what he meant lol. I think he was referring to the cocaine.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by jonknee on Monday September 29, 2014 @12:48AM (#8381730)
What do you think happens when enormous sums of money are handed out to fairly young mostly male people?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by druiid on Sunday September 28, 2014 @05:22PM (#8380934)
Apparently you've never been part of the advertisement world or know anyone in it. I have friends in the industry with numerous stories even worse than this. The things apparently that some companies will do to pull in clients is pretty astounding.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by incision on Sunday September 28, 2014 @06:29PM (#8381084)
>"Apparently you've never been part of the advertisement world or know anyone in it."

It's not just advertising. I'd wager it happens many if not most places where there are contracts to be awarded or specific talent to be retained.

I'd imagine that the folks expressing disbelief are either inexperienced or so obviously 'square' that they're kept totally in the dark about such things.

I've seen one place where it was nearly a standard of 'culture fit'.

Note: I don't mean to condone this sort thing, just to bear witness to its prevalence.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by wtracy on Monday September 29, 2014 @03:27PM (#8384705)
Google has on-site masseuses. They also have dedicated massage rooms with no windows. (I've seen one.)

I hope that I'm wrong, but I'm suspicious about what happens in there.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @02:48AM (#8387029)
A fairly normal spa massage is done unclothed with a towel covering (the client disproves and covers up while the masseur or masseuse out of the room.)

So, while a massage room might have windows, if it does they almost certainly would be covered completely when in use. So no windows isn't odd for a massage room.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by AVTizzle on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @02:42AM (#8387011)
Why on earth would you expect a massage room to have windows?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by iowai on Sunday September 28, 2014 @04:38PM (#8380847)
What about prostitutes do you not believe? That they exist? That they get hired by companies to entertain the team? That this happens in startups?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by djur on Sunday September 28, 2014 @05:06PM (#8380907)
The latter two. I have trouble believing that even in the excesses of the dotcom boom there were companies hiring prostitutes in the open.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by corin_ on Sunday September 28, 2014 @06:14PM (#8381061)
It happens - most recent time I witnessed it was at a company's party in August. Only in the VIP area.. from where I took a few cigars then left to the non-VIP area.

It's legal where this party was (Germany), though that's not to say it doesn't happen in countries where it isn't legal.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by a_bonobo on Sunday September 28, 2014 @09:10PM (#8381346)
There was a fairly big scandal 3 years ago in Germany when the big insurance company Munich Re sponsored prostitutes for its 100 best insurance salesmen. This definitely happens, all the time.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/19/sex-party-rewar...

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by ifuck on Sunday September 28, 2014 @06:30PM (#8381088)
Being a prostitute myself, I can tell you that this is happening in the here and now all the time.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by pavel_lishin on Sunday September 28, 2014 @08:09PM (#8381262)
Can you share a few anonymized stories?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by candycane on Sunday September 28, 2014 @10:03PM (#8381425)
I like to think start-ups offer some unique experiences to their employees. Work that makes you grow as a person. The sort of thing your dad smiles at and points out all that extra hair on your chest.

There's a certain high-level manager at a Valley startup. His team just launched. Everyone's high. Super-buzzed. Nice party. I have a little printed crib-sheet. John. 43. B-school. Wife left. Couldn't handle being a married single mom. Has visiting rights to his daughters, but doesn't have time to exercise them.

It's my job to go home with him. Make it all worth it. Usually these guys are into wife-play. As in, I play the role of their ex. Give them a taste of a still-sizzling marriage for a night. "New honeymoon vibes" is what my boss calls it.

Basically a tailored prostitute for guys who royally fucked up their personal life. Because that's how the modern startup views itself: a family surrogate, and I'm just another extension.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by djur on Monday September 29, 2014 @12:44PM (#8383697)
I can see how they'd be able to get away with that, although frankly I'd be wondering who these women nobody seems to know are doing at the party. But I'm pretty sure at this point it's just a culture difference between where I live and Silicon Valley.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by pavel_lishin on Monday September 29, 2014 @04:14PM (#8384986)
I work in a moderately small office, and at least once a week we get semi-random visitors from other offices. At actual parties, people bring their significant others and sometimes their friends - I wouldn't really be surprised to see a new person at a party. In fact, I'd be surprised if only familiar faces were there.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by johndolan on Monday September 29, 2014 @03:26PM (#8384704)
Even in the Valley, an attractive woman rarely is rarely thought of as out of place. People would be too busy hitting on her or admiring from a far to question where she came from in my experience.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by marincounty on Monday September 29, 2014 @11:43AM (#8383406)
Don't leave out a lot of these guy's couldn't land the chick they think deserve, even after they get that first big check. Don't down vote because it rings too true. Down boys because I'm off base?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by Kamic on Monday September 29, 2014 @10:59AM (#8383148)
burn!: modern startup views itself: a family surrogate -
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by EC1 on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @06:08AM (#8393595)
Why are you on HN?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by emiliobumachar on Sunday September 28, 2014 @05:41PM (#8380984)
Presumably they kept it out of the press releases. What's "in the open"?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by djur on Sunday September 28, 2014 @09:53PM (#8381409)
Well, a party usually has a lot of people at it. All you need is one person who has qualms and calls the police. I'd have expected that kind of thing to be done with a little bit more discretion and plausible deniability.
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by ObviousScience on Monday September 29, 2014 @09:12AM (#8382741)
That guy calls the police.

The manager answer the door and tells the police that the employee misunderstood, and he'd merely hired dancers for the night. That guy doesn't have a job anymore, and no one is going to get in trouble with the cops.

The only way to be sure that they're prostitutes is to actually have a transaction with one, which if you go to the police about, are more likely to get arrested for than anyone else, since you're the only proven john.

You can be fairly direct with later deniability, and there's an incredibly high cost to being the guy that called the cops.

Why do you think drug use at start-ups is so common, even at work sponsored events?

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by djur on Monday September 29, 2014 @12:39PM (#8383677)
I didn't know drug use at work-sponsored events was common. Is this a San Francisco thing?
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by ObviousScience on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @03:25AM (#8387107)
Late reply:

I've seen off-label pill use, marijuana, and cocaine at work related events (or just casually around the office) in at least 5 states, ranging between the West Coast, the East Coast, and Texas. The settings have ranged from small companies and start-ups (which have the most drug use openly) to large corporations like Microsoft (where people at least hid in the bathroom or private areas while doing lines). Marijuana is the most prevalent that I've seen, at 8 different states and between widely varying social groups.

I've even been offered ADHD meds not prescribed for me by senior people at the company I worked for at the time, to keep me working long hours and more focused at work. (Hey, if it works for college kids, it works for adults.)

The simple answer is that not everyone agrees with laws against vices, particularly things like prostitutes and drug use - and see no reason to follow them.

If you're not aware that things like this happen, you probably give off the impression that you'll try to get people arrested and seriously damage their lives because they take an intoxicant you were told was bad, rather than alcohol or any of the various other legal ones.

tl;dr: It's all over, and if you don't see it, people are actively hiding it for you because they don't trust you to make reasonable choices.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by djur on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @03:38PM (#8390639)
Thanks for the information, but you can keep the needless (and hilariously inaccurate) moralizing.

Where I work, most official work events are set up to allow employees to bring in their kids. I believe most people would not do lines in front of preteens. What people do in private is another thing entirely.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by ObviousScience on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @10:29PM (#8392516)
> I believe most people would not do lines in front of preteens. What people do in private is another thing entirely.

This has been my impression of work parties as well.

I think I omitted it, but the context to my reply was more of a late-evening-with-drinks party than a good-for-the-family party/event.

Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by coldtea on Monday September 29, 2014 @05:57AM (#8382214)
As the other guy said they can just call them "escorts" or "exotic dancers".
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by coldtea on Monday September 29, 2014 @05:55AM (#8382211)
You'd be surprised. And they can always come in as mere "exotic dancers".
Re:Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day by wodenokoto on Monday September 29, 2014 @12:09AM (#8381665)
They just call them escorts.