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Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by nightski on Monday September 15, 2014 @12:49PM (#8319884)
Minecraft was grown out of the way Notch works.

What you are suggesting is impossible. No one, not even Steve Jobs sits down and says "My life mission is to benefit humanity". This is because we really do not know which efforts will have the largest impact on humanity. You could waste a lifetime trying to make a better battery - but it might never happen.

Or you could hack around on a game and watch it explode and impact millions of lives around the world.

In my opinion the important part is that you are doing something meaningful to you as an individual. If it ends up exploding and benefiting humanity all the better. But the world would be so much better off if we just had everyone doing this.

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by tempestn on Monday September 15, 2014 @04:36PM (#8321358)
> No one, not even Steve Jobs sits down and says "My life mission is to benefit humanity".

Musk might be considered a counter-example here. In fact, part of his mission is literally to "make a better battery". Of course in depends on how much you buy into his mythology. Certainly he could have comfortably retired after Paypal though. (Rather than moving on to run two groundbreaking companies - something I'm not sure how one person manages to successfully do.)

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by nightski on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @02:07AM (#8323262)
I wasn't saying that I think no one should do things that benefit humanity. Rather I was saying that you should only do what is meaningful to you as an individual.

Musk clearly finds what he does meaningful to himself and is not doing something he does not enjoy simply for the greater good of humanity.

Notch did not enjoy being part of something so large. I find it odd to belittle him for choosing the path of doing small things, since that is where something as impactful as Minecraft was created in the first place.

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by dnautics on Monday September 15, 2014 @06:12PM (#8321858)
three, actually, if you count solarcity, which is arguably less groundbreaking than the other two.
Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by ceol on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @01:05AM (#8323146)
> Minecraft was grown out of the way Notch works.

I'd say Minecraft was grown in spite of the way Notch works. The way he works has been the bane of a lot of modders, who are (arguably) the reason his game is so successful.

> In my opinion the important part is that you are doing something meaningful to you as an individual. [...] ...the world would be so much better off if we just had everyone doing this.

You can't separate yourself from humanity as a whole. That's like saying your liver should do something meaningful for itself as an organ, and if it ends up helping your body, all the better. We don't work individually. Humans require other humans, and all of our motivations and desires are influenced by this requirement.

Notch may not have begun Minecraft with the larger gaming community in mind, but he certainly continued development in some small part because of it.

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by yupmetoo on Monday September 15, 2014 @02:02PM (#8320330)
I know this is outside the topic, but to critique your analogy - you could spend a lifetime trying to make a better battery, and share the knowledge of 1000 ways to not make a better battery, which is useful in and of itself.
Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by nightski on Monday September 15, 2014 @03:02PM (#8320726)
I wasn't trying to imply such a pursuit wouldn't be useful, rather that you should only do it if you find it individually fulfilling and not solely because it might benefit humanity as a whole (because it might not, no one can predict these things).

But of course this is all just a personal opinion and highly subjective.

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by seanflyon on Monday September 15, 2014 @05:47PM (#8321720)
While we cannot predict the future with perfect certainty statements like: "A better battery will benefit humanity" are safe bets. There are many things that we know with a high degree a certainty will benefit humanity.
Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by nightski on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @02:10AM (#8323270)
And if you find that individually meaningful you should go for it!

Notch however, clearly did not enjoy working on something with so much publicity whether it benefited humanity or not. I don't think we should belittle him for that.

Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by scottjad on Monday September 15, 2014 @02:28PM (#8320498)
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the way he works or toy projects or experimenting or not knowing beforehand what will be successful. I'm just a bit concerned that if he actually takes the attitude of (paraphrased) "if something I do is appealing to many people I'll abandon that and find something nobody cares about," he'll end up shortchanging himself and others. And in fairness to Notch, he probably does mean something more nuanced, transitory, and reasonable.
Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by norswap on Monday September 15, 2014 @07:33PM (#8322197)
I think the op just suggests that it would be a pity if Notch killed something he did because it turned popular; not that he should strive to build something popular or benefiting humanity.
Re:I'm Leaving Mojang by saraid216 on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @04:05AM (#8323490)
> No one, not even Steve Jobs sits down and says "My life mission is to benefit humanity". This is because we really do not know which efforts will have the largest impact on humanity.

Not knowing how to do something doesn't stop me from trying to do it. Why does it stop you?