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Re:Why Google thinks you should drop everything you do and p... by WoodenChair on Sunday September 07, 2014 @05:56AM (#8280686)
That seems the general skeptic's analysis - and it has some validity - but let me point out a few things that make Dart seem a bit more open:

- It compiles to JS (you mentioned this)

- It is standardized by ECMA

- The entire platform (VM, compiler, libraries, IDE, etc) is open source

I guess how you feel about Dart may depend on how you feel about Google and big corporations more generally. Just because a big company that has a lot of mindshare/marketshare creates a great platform, does that necessarily mean we should be afraid of it? Maybe, but if you're frustrated by JavaScript, it's certainly worth a look.

Re:Why Google thinks you should drop everything you do and p... by pavlov on Sunday September 07, 2014 @06:13AM (#8280699)
Except for the JS transpiler, Microsoft Silverlight could make similar claims: the CLI runtime is standardized by ECMA, and the entire source code for the .NET Framework is available. (Granted, not the Visual Studio IDE.)

For these kinds of platforms, post facto standardization efforts and code releases are part of marketing, IMHO. Dart remains a Google-lead project tied to Google's goals rather than an actual open platform.

Re:Why Google thinks you should drop everything you do and p... by WoodenChair on Sunday September 07, 2014 @06:24AM (#8280711)
> Dart remains a Google-lead project tied to Google's goals rather than an actual open platform.

Right, I agree with you. I guess you didn't read my whole post. To quote myself from just above: "I guess how you feel about Dart may depend on how you feel about Google and big corporations more generally. Just because a big company that has a lot of mindshare/marketshare creates a great platform, does that necessarily mean we should be afraid of it? Maybe, but if you're frustrated by JavaScript, it's certainly worth a look."

Re:Why Google thinks you should drop everything you do and p... by mythz on Sunday September 07, 2014 @06:30AM (#8280719)
> the entire source code for the .NET Framework is available.

Which means nothing as no-one else is legally allowed to use it. It's only "Source Open" (not "Open Source") so no-one is legally allowed to adopt, adapt, enhance, etc as can be done with true Open Source projects.

Re:Why Google thinks you should drop everything you do and p... by haberman on Sunday September 07, 2014 @11:40AM (#8281448)
> Granted, not the Visual Studio IDE

And also not the actual Silverlight part: http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/is-it-time-to-op...