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Re:DocumentDB by mythz on Thursday August 21, 2014 @05:56PM (#8209858)
Releasing proprietary software behind a walled garden is not exactly a celebratory-worthy achievement, even Oracle and Apple can obtain this kind of achievement.
Re:DocumentDB by coldtea on Thursday August 21, 2014 @06:33PM (#8210002)
So the only celebratory-worthy achievements are about releases of "libre" stuff?

Because, I'd say, if the software is good, and fits its users needs, then "releasing proprietary software behind a walled garden" is totally celebratory-worthy too.

Re:DocumentDB by GhotiFish on Thursday August 21, 2014 @07:10PM (#8210147)
Releasing a vendor lock in focused system is an act of self interest.

Releasing something for the public good, open source, open for all to use is an entirely different, more applaudable action.

You don't get browny points for being baiting your traps. Even if it's fancy cheese.

Re:DocumentDB by coldtea on Thursday August 21, 2014 @08:31PM (#8210388)
Sometimes I'd rather buy and use something costing money, from a vendor that only sells it himself, than some free stuff offered that I think its crap.

A turd of a software, even if libre, is still a turd. I won't celebrate it just because someone offers it for free.

I'm not talking in general: there's excellent libre software, and excellent proprietary software too.

But there's specific libre software that's just plain crap for most use cases compared to its proprietary alternative (e.g consider a high-end DAW and the libre DAWs. Or a high-end NLE and the libre NLEs).

And some other libre software is mighty fine in itself, but lacks other characteristics that some proprietary software has (from 24/7 paid on the phone support, to quality documentation, to working with your preffered OS or your other infrastructure, etc). So some people can make good use of it, while for others it's not suitable.

Re:DocumentDB by wizardly on Thursday August 21, 2014 @08:04PM (#8210337)
MS can both act in self interest (it is business after all) and do something for the "public good".

It's weird that you think these two marks cannot both be hit in one stroke.

Re:DocumentDB by GhotiFish on Friday August 22, 2014 @11:35AM (#8212545)
yah sure. If free market was a zero sum game it would be pointless. However, I see absolutely NO reason I should applaud them for it, not when then are people making real sacrifices for open source software.
Re:DocumentDB by socceroos on Thursday August 21, 2014 @07:30PM (#8210213)
Well, that narrow view got us into this mess in the first place.
Re:DocumentDB by coldtea on Thursday August 21, 2014 @08:24PM (#8210374)
What mess?

I was there in past decades. We're better off than ever, both with regard to accessibility and pricing of proprietary software and with regard to abundance of libre software.

Re:DocumentDB by sheetjs on Thursday August 21, 2014 @06:23PM (#8209965)
Re:DocumentDB by mythz on Thursday August 21, 2014 @06:36PM (#8210014)
Yep, you could also say Apple's CloudKit is another proprietary NoSQL solution for the purpose of providing more value and lock-in into the iOS ecosystem. But at least CloudKit has generous free usage up to:

   - 1PB for assets
   - 10TB for database
https://developer.apple.com/icloud/documentation/cloudkit-st...
Re:DocumentDB by ampersandy on Thursday August 21, 2014 @07:00PM (#8210104)
Looks like you'll need 10 million users in order to have that much space, though.
Re:DocumentDB by wizardly on Thursday August 21, 2014 @08:05PM (#8210340)
By this logic we ought to discredit just about every single small business ever.
Re:DocumentDB by disjointrevelry on Thursday August 21, 2014 @06:23PM (#8209963)
Yes, but 5 years behind the curve? I think not.