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Re:Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET? by hello_moto on Tuesday November 20, 2007 @02:03PM (#82043)
You should either use NHibernate, SubSonic or wait for EDM/LinQ in the upcoming ASP.NET so you won't deal with 5-6 lines of ADO.NET code.

But I have to agree with you, it's not that straightforward to understand ASP.NET esp if you have previous knowledge of developing web-app because ASP.NET tries to abstract everything out for you (via their Controls, ViewState etc).

On the other side, ASP.NET might not be discipline in terms of MVC but then again it is ridiculously easy to re-create a GridView such that I don't care much about the VC part of the MVC. I write less code thanks to Visual Web Developer tool.

Re:Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET? by iamelgringo on Tuesday November 20, 2007 @02:08PM (#82049)
Wow, thanks, Guys. If I were still working on that project I'd probably pick your brains a bit more.

And, I think that you hit the nail on the head about abstracting everything out for me. In the short ammount of time, I just couldn't grokk it, but I knew I didn't like it.

It seemed like ASP.NET was a purposefull movement away from typical web development. And, I'm sure that Microsoft was trying to fix problems that they say with typical web dev.

I just think that there are better solutions out there than ASP.NET. But, if you're a windows guy and used to coding in Visual Studio, and you can already use the languages that you are used to, it might be a really good idea.

Re:Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET? by johnb on Wednesday November 21, 2007 @06:02AM (#82416)
I found that ASP.NET was a good stop off point between writing desktop apps and writing web apps. All the event handling logic and the postback thing meant I could bring most of my desktop thinking across and be productive immediately. The problem I had was once I had been working on the web a while I realised the abstractions were broken but the framework didn't leave me anywhere to go.
Re:Ask YC: Are there *any* startups using ASP.NET? by hello_moto on Tuesday November 20, 2007 @03:05PM (#82104)
Better solution depends largely on how your brain works. Some people brain map better with LISP, some work better with OOP/Java.