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Re:We have C++14 by EpicEng on Monday August 18, 2014 @11:53PM (#8195975)
So "Modern C++" is a mirage, but Rust and Go are the surefire winners? Do you have any substance to add to your post?

I don't know, I've been writing C++ for about a decade and the code I write is "modern" as far as I can tell. I just started a new project. It is C++, it is "modern", and Rust and Go simply aren't options.

Rust is an infant and not yet ready for prime time, and Go simply wouldn't be considered by management. Not because they're ignorant, out of date curmudgeons, but because they want a larger pool of talent to draw upon and a language that is well known, well understood, and has decades of work invested around tooling. I can't say that I blame them.

Re:We have C++14 by loup-vaillant on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @10:07AM (#8197316)
Why do people keep assuming that they need an X programmer, or a Y programmer? Go is a garbage collected imperative and OO language, right? It's not like Java and C++ programmers wouldn't be able to learn the basics in 3 days, and be proficient in a couple weeks.

Why does the "pool of talent" even matters?

Re:We have C++14 by pjmlp on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:38PM (#8198292)
Companies don't want to pay for training.
Re:We have C++14 by yohanatan on Wednesday August 20, 2014 @03:41AM (#8201432)
So don't publicize the fact that you are 'learning' while you 'practice'. Just show the end result and it will likely be better than their language 'experts' could have done in any comparable [or infinite] time frame.
Re:We have C++14 by loup-vaillant on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:49PM (#8198362)
Not even 4 weeks worth of semi-productive self-learning? That sounds quite pathetic.

There must be something else, like fear of the unknown, risk aversion, "nobody got fired for choosing IBM"…

Re:We have C++14 by pjmlp on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:56PM (#8198411)
I know consulting companies that bill the customer the hours developers spend getting up to speed with a given technology.

In the cases the customer is not willing to pay, developers get asked to learn off work hours, if they want to stay on the project.

Re:We have C++14 by loup-vaillant on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @06:30PM (#8200176)
Now this is just abusive. I understand that as an individual I have to live with this, but collectively, it looks like we should rise up.