Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for Android

Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by tux1968 on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @04:07AM (#8166932)

They have...

http://linuxgizmos.com/nvidia-opens-tegra-k1-driver-wins-tor...

Or am I misunderstanding?

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by fulafel on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @04:23AM (#8166973)

This doesn't do any accelerated graphics. It remains to be seen if NV are just trying to make life smoother for the proprietary parts of driver stack on Android by getting the the HW initialization etc into upstream Linux, or if they are aiming to actually do an open 3D driver. They haven't announced any plans about the latter.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by pjmlp on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @03:21AM (#8166840)

Won't happen.

Intel 3D hardware is crappy anyway.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by rbanffy on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @09:05AM (#8167550)

> Intel 3D hardware is crappy anyway.

Good enough goes a long way when the competition is made of high-performance temperamental sports cars that tend to catch fire when you least want them to. Sometimes, all you need is a Honda Accord.

And eventually "good enough" will catch up.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by fulafel on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @03:23AM (#8166846)

Less crappy than many people think. Intel and AMD are about head to head in game benchmarks. See eg. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600...

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by pjmlp on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @03:33AM (#8166862)

The ones that have to program for them beg to differ:

http://richg42.blogspot.de/2014/05/the-truth-on-opengl-drive...

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by brigade on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @04:20AM (#8166965)

He's programming for 200W+ dedicated AMD cards. It may surprise you that AMD can't match that level of performance in their 65W SoCs either.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by pjmlp on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @04:30AM (#8166992)

Last time I checked, even AMD's Brazos were better than Intel's offering.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by fulafel on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @03:34AM (#8166868)

Yeah, software can be a different story. But, Intel drivers are by far the best ones on Linux, so I'm happy on that front as well.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by gnarbarian on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @06:42AM (#8167245)

analogies are failing me here. But the best one I have is this:

A bicycle requires less maintenance and is easier to build repair and operate than an F1 car. Taken a step further. The complex nature of the F1 car and competitive nature of F1 races gives far greater advantages to secrets which may give the team/car the competitive edge.

I don't like the fact that this is where the graphics industry is and I wish that they would simply compete on hardware and the tech was all open. but I do prefer nvidia on linux to any other GPU because they have the performance I'm looking for. Also their linux drivers are far better than AMD's.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by shmerl on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @04:28AM (#8166987)

> Intel 3D hardware is crappy anyway.

Note anymore. Their 14nm mobile chips should be competitive and with open drivers will enable Linux + Wayland on them.

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by muro on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @07:07AM (#8167308)

That has been Intel's story for 10 years - the current generation may suck, but look what's coming next!

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by ulfw on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @07:40AM (#8167359)

I couldn't agree more. This has been the Marketing spin for many generations of intel Graphics solutions. "Oh this might not be as performant as one might want, but wait for next year's Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell/Broadwell. Graphics will be x times as fast!" And then it turns out it is barely more performant but hey... next year's will be though!

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Re:Tegra K1 “Denver” Will Be First 64-bit ARM Processor for ... by w0utert on Tuesday August 12, 2014 @11:42AM (#8168248)

To be fair, Intel has made a lot of progress with their IGP's over the last few years. I have been slamming Intel graphics for exactly the same reasons you and the commenter before you (and rightly so), but times do change. HD3000 and HD4000 were both big steps forward, much bigger than anything AMD has shown in the same timeframe, but Intel was so far behind that they were still lacking. Haswell graphics (HD5000, specifically Iris Pro) are already pretty close behind the lower-end AMD IGP's though. If Intel manages a similarly large step forward with Broadwell, they might just step into the same league AMD is playing in.

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