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Re:The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi by javert on Wednesday July 23, 2014 @05:46PM (#8077119)
Contrary to what other commenters are saying, I've been using NetworkManager on my ArchLinux Thinkpads for years and it works great. (And I don't even have a desktop environment, I have DWM, so I am usually a "do it yourself" person.)

Whereas I could never get all the mess working to get things working well without NetworkManager.

My experience is, spend hours messing with configuration shit or just let NetworkManager do all that automatically for you, which in my case, it does well.

Re:The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi by keeperofdakeys on Wednesday July 23, 2014 @10:09PM (#8077907)
Network Manager uses wpa_supplicant underneath, and delegates roaming and AP selection to it. So I don't know how what should be a dump program on top gets such a bad wrap.

Not that I don't use wpa_supplicant directly anyway, but when I have used NM, it seems to do the same job.

Re:The sad state of Linux Wi-Fi by nextos on Wednesday July 23, 2014 @08:02PM (#8077629)
I'm also a DIY person. Using networkd already along with systemd and wpa_supplicant. It's very simple and reliable.