I'd rather C-s was save, and C-f was find, consistently across all applications rather than the nightmare world you're proposing (which, to be fair, we're halfway in already). Unless you're distinguishing between search and find (even then, I'd rather not have a shortcut for whatever search does).

My problem with that is that it makes virtually zero sense to have a "save" option in the browser. Seriously, when is the only time that was what you wanted? :) Perhaps if it was remapped to "bookmark"? (C-d? Seriously?)

Though, I should say that it was a quick trip to firemacs to get the behavior I wanted.

Yeah, bookmarking makes some sense, and is probably more useful than saving the page itself which, I agree, is almost entirely useless. To be honest, if it comes to it, I'd rather have no mapping at all for a shortcut whose standard command is out-of-place for a given app, than overload a shortcut that has a single specific meaning in every other.

I've used save several times when I wanted some information on the web page to be accessible offline. Commonly: ticket information. Or, all the information on some table on Wikipedia.

Yep :-) Working between Windows and OSX all with different application behaviour can be quite taxing on the muscle memory. Esp. for heavy users of emacs and I suppose of vi.

Countless times I have wished that there was an operating system level option to choose keymapping (emacs, vi, cua, whatever) and _all_ applications will respect that.

I'm mostly ok with variety. Helps keep me thinking about what I'm doing. Well, as long as the shortcuts they use actually make sense. As I said in a sibling, why is C-d bookmark?! At least C-f for "forward" makes sense.

It is surprising how "discoverable" many of the keyboard choices are/were in older editors. In emacs? C-c C-(first letter of what you want to do) probably works if you are in a minor mode. If not, try C-h b to see the bindings.

My use case for very frequent saving is holding on to pages for later reading when I don't have an Internet connection (at home, as it happens; or, what may be a more common use case, on planes or (some) trains)).

Would printing to a pdf be a better workflow? Lots of sites seem to break due to external css/js not working for an offline local copy.

> Would printing to a pdf be a better workflow?

It may be; I just have a foolish built-in mindset that "PDF is big, and HTML is small" (uncontaminated by anything silly like checking the sizes of PDF and HTML versions of the same page). Since I usually only use this to queue up casual reading, it's not very important to me that it be an extremely faithful copy; I just grab the "Print view" if there is one.

Firefox, with "Web page, complete", and Safari, with "Web archive", are both pretty good at grabbing dependencies. If I really want a good mirror, then I use wget.

My method for that is not closing the browser. Do you have a workflow where you save to a specific place to see when you are on the train?

> My method for that is not closing the browser.

The advantages of saving the file over not closing the browser are two:

1. it's persistent across reboots / power failure (a pressing concern on an old machine that sometimes decides it's time for an unannounced reboot);

2. it scales well with the number of articles I want to save—I'd rather have 100 files saved than 100 tabs open, and the former doesn't cause any slow-down.

> Do you have a workflow where you save to a specific place to see when you are on the train?

I'm not sure that I understand the question; sorry.

Already the "bookmarks" for most folks is already a dumping ground that they never look at. For myself, I know that if I were saving pages to a spot, I would be in major trouble with just a massively growing pit of pages I'll never slog through.

So, I would think it would be great if you could "triage" pages you wanted to save for later. Even if I could move them from a "to read" to a "read" pile would be awesome. Didn't know if you had any pointers on making that happen.

Edit: I should say, btw, I actually do use my "don't close tabs" for the train. My commutes are typically small, so I don't do large readings.

> So, I would think it would be great if you could "triage" pages you wanted to save for later. Even if I could move them from a "to read" to a "read" pile would be awesome. Didn't know if you had any pointers on making that happen.

Not really; I do a first, basic sort when saving according to very crude topic (Math, CS, news, …). When I actually read, I treat it essentially as if I were reading online; unless I really enjoy the file, I delete it after reading. If I do enjoy it, I move it to a separate 'permanent' storage area.

One advantage of this over bookmarks for me is that I somehow spend more time looking at my directory tree than my bookmarks, and so am more bothered by an enormous (in the sense of number of files, not size) directory than by my bookmarks becoming, as you say, a massive dumping ground. Thus, having the files on disk somehow seems to cause me to deal with them, either sorting them more carefully or deleting them, much sooner (or, at least, before the end of time :-) ).