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Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @04:12PM (#798805)
At 800 x 600, you can't read the event date. So I changed resolution to read the date, but now I can't find the time.

This sounds like a worthwhile event, and I imagine the speakers don't make their customers jump through hoops like this website makes you do.

Honestly, shouldn't pros have a better website?

Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by duffomelia on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @06:03PM (#799046)
The date of the conference is October 17, 2009. Your screen resolution is vintage! I didn't realize folks were still using 800x600.
Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @07:21PM (#799135)
It shouldn't matter what resolution people are using; sites should degrade gracefully. You never know when you're going to have someone with a visual disability, or using a screen reader trying to use your site.
Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by dchest on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @05:51PM (#799035)
800x600? Get a new computer and you'll be able to read a lot of websites!
Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @06:58PM (#799115)
The computer is new. The eyes are old.

Please understand this...

I will use what I want, not what the poorly build site forces me to do.

There are 100 million other baby boomers who have increasing difficulty with higher resolutions. Do you want them coming to your site or not?

Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by dchest on Wednesday September 02, 2009 @07:03AM (#799848)
Sorry, I didn't realize there were people running 22" displays in 800x600 due to sight difficulties on HN.

Still, don't blame web designers. The problem is that current operating systems are not resolution independent. While you can resize a web page in modern web browsers, everything outside the browser window is still too small.

Also, in Safari 4 when I make browser window very small, I still get horizontal scrollbar, and can see the date.

Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by oneplusone on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @08:41PM (#799212)
Buy a monitor with a lower DPI so everything looks bigger. The opportunity cost is too great to support 800x600 at this point.
Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @09:47PM (#799288)
The opportunity cost for whom?

I got a 22" monitor. I went to the eye doctor and got special glasses for working. I use 800 x 600 all the time. For all my work and all my web surfing. Almost all sites work just fine.

I spend $5,000 per year on-line. I'm probably not alone. If your site doesn't work for me, I leave (and take my money and eyeballs, too.)

Like I said before, there are 100 million others in the same boat. Not to mention the increasing use of netbooks and mobile devices.

I used to get upset when people here at hn told me how I, as the customer, had to change to suit the vendor, which goes against everything I've ever learned in business. Not any more. Now I just shake my head at the lessons lost.

Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by oneplusone on Wednesday September 02, 2009 @10:33AM (#800246)
If I can increase the conversion rate, or even the amount people are willing to spend, by increasing the resolution and that results in greater revenue that targeting 800x600, then I should do it. This is especially important with web apps. 800x600 can actually hurt the usability of some applications that require a lot of fields/controls.
Re:Kevin Hale, Derek Sivers, Mike McDerment et al @ Less Con... by jamesbritt on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @09:16PM (#799253)
I just viewed the site on my G1. It looks like ass.

It need not be that way, and not accounting for assorted screen sizes and devices is lazy.