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Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:16PM (#798253)
the job happens to be my all-time favorite

What are you crazy?!?

I've had many jobs and I've liked few of them. If you have a job you love working for a schoolmate, why would you want to leave? You don't even have any plans. I'd understand this a little better if you had a project you're dying to work on full time, but that's not the case.

Why don't you just keep your job and find a side project. If that side project gets big, go part time. If it gets so big, you're burning to work on it full-time, then quit, but not before.

Good jobs are hard to come by and jobs you love are almost impossible to come by. Also, don't discount all the data you get from your job to feed your startup plans. Lots of people would love to do a startup, but don't know what to work on. People with jobs don't have that problem as much. The job can be the source of lots of great ideas for things people actually need right now.

I'm the last person to discourage anyone from doing their thing, but job vs. startup is not a binary decision. You can do both, at least for a while.

Keep that all-time favorite job for now. You can always leave later once something else has wings.

Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:26PM (#798275)
No matter how much I've liked any job I've had, I always knew I was working for someone else.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by redorb on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:38PM (#798301)
you say that like working for someone else is bad - do you think your startup will have no customers? (for whom you'll be working_for harder than your boss)
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:55PM (#798349)
You're overparsing my intention. When you work for another company, there is always someone else who ultimately has to sign off on your decisions; I'd far rather be the person with whom the buck always stops.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by nostrademons on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @02:41PM (#798585)
That's not necessarily true. I can code basically whatever I want. I just can't launch it without Marissa's approval. But there are more potential internal users at Google than most startups ever get anyway, and anything with significant internal traction will likely get launched regardless of the decision-makers' opinions.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @02:53PM (#798603)
With my day job right now, I determine our release schedule, what features go into the product, how things get implemented, what tools we use, what languages we use, what hardware we purchase, what development methodologies we use, how we build, how we test, how we handle user training, how we deal with bug reports, what candidates we hire, which people we fire, and I don't have to ask for permission to do any of these things.

But, it's not my company; and what I can and can't do could change instantly if the guy at the top of the org chart decides on a whim that things are going to be done differently. While I don't think it's likely to happen, it's still a possibility; and you have a lot less of that when it's you at top of the chart.

[Edit: I just want to preempt some other angles if I can; I know that things get muddy when you deal with investors and and boards of directors, and when you deal with partners and staff and all of those things. There's a bit of nuance here that I'm somehow not conveying. I guess at this point you either get what I'm saying or you don't.]

Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by nostrademons on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @05:39PM (#799013)
If the guy at the top decides on a whim that things are going to be done differently, you can just keep doing what you're doing. If he doesn't like it, he can fire you, and then you're in exactly the same position as if you'd quit to pursue a startup. Except that you probably have a bit more savings, a bit more experience, and a bit more of a desire to prove him wrong.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by ams6110 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:23PM (#798268)
On the other hand if you have a job you like and it's paying you well, it can be hard to get motivated enough to really work on a side project, even if it's something you'd like to try. Forcing a little hunger on yourself might be what you need.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @02:37PM (#798573)
Forcing a little hunger on yourself might be what you need.

That hunger can easily become real, not virtual, if you're not careful :-)

Things take longer than they seem. Money lasts shorter than you plan.

Like I said before, I'm not one to discourage, but OP doesn't even have a "hair on fire" idea yet. I'd think twice before I left a job I loved.

Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @02:57PM (#798611)
Let's take things with a grain of salt. It sounds like the OP can definitely hack - I'd assume if he needed to he could just go back and get another job, no?
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by edw519 on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @03:07PM (#798629)
Probably. Maybe I'm a little sensitive lately. I love the idea of doing my own startup. It trumps everything else I'm working on. But there's something to be said for a job you love. I know so many people who hate going to work, so OP shouldn't discount the job he loves too much, that's all.
Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by icey on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @03:10PM (#798634)
Well, you're right about having a great job being worth a lot; but the fact that the OP wants to leave something so great to work on starting up really speaks more to the depth of his drive to start up, right?

(Also, I totally agree with you about having an idea to work on before quitting.)

Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by cousin_it on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:30PM (#798283)
Good jobs are hard to come by and jobs you love are almost impossible to come by.

I've loved all my jobs.

Also, don't discount all the data you get from your job to feed your startup plans.

I wouldn't dream of starting a competitor to the project we built together.

Re:Ask HN: I'm resigning soon, any suggestions what to build... by jacquesm on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @12:50PM (#798335)
Where's that friend button when you need it...

How about this:

Find some idea, get your friend on board as an investor / advisor ? You guys seem to get along well and have each others interests at heart otherwise you wouldn't say you loved the job that much.

Three birds with one stone, angel investor / mentor / continued professional relationship, only this time you are in charge.