This looks like an excellent library, the demo works nicely on my iPhone, but...

I think that simulating native UI is a bad idea all around. If it looks like a native app, acts like a native app, I expect it to do everything like a native app. This gets 90% of the way there, but due to the nature of the browser will never be 100%. I think you are better off with a unique look and feel that won't confuse users. You'll also spend less time developing it, as you won't struggle to get every little detail to match.

There is actually loads of sites out there, that duplicate the iphone functionality, when in mobile mode. There are other toolkits to make your web more iphone-like. It has its advantages and disadvantages. Most people don't even know what the different is between a web app and an iphone app, so I think it is a reasonably safe bet.

> Most people don't even know what the different is between a web app and an iphone app

Exactly! That is the problem. They don't know your web app is an iphone app. So, they get annoyed when it doesn't have all the functionality of an iphone app. They have higher bar of expectation that a webapp inherently can not reach.

If it was obviously a "web page" then user expectations are much lower and they are likely to be impressed by what it can do.

The key to success is not being good. It's being better than expected.

Tried this on my android and it was extremely laggy. The work looks good, but the performance was subpar.

I'll definitely keep checking up on this project, though. Looks very promising.

I tried in on my second gen iPod Touch, and although it doeen't lag, I got a lot of flicker, as well as UI elements getting stuck in the "on" position.

I like the idea, though, and would love to have a framework that just works on devices that I can't test on.

Which firmware version is it on, just so I know — 2.2 or 3.0? Thanks-

2.2

Worked well on iPod Touch 2G 3.0

The external links got stuck in the on position, and the Todo demo flickered the row when checking/unchecking items.

I definitely need to test more on Android and Pre - hence the beta. With Android, I'm aiming primarily at "cupcake" release, as it's a newer version of WebKit. Hopefully, as they all get updated with newer and newer versions of WebKit, we'll see more ubiquity in general.

I'm running Cupcake here, and it's pretty painfully slow on my ADP1. Scrolling is a bit unreliable, as is trackball navigation. It looks great, though. Best of luck getting it working there.

Many thanks. Definitely need to get some test devices — Would love to focus on making it functional/accessible on these devices, but then forwards compatible. Love the fact that more and more modern devices are including auto-update features.

Unfortunately, I think you'll find a lot of the newer WebKit features missing from the Pre. For example, the canvas implementation is stripped down and lacks, among other things, gradients.

Yes, I've seen- it's definitely lacking. Hopefully they'll update with more features, but ultimately, my main goal is to provide the page animations, history management, AJAX, etc. — Someone could create a Pre theme which doesn't use CSS gradients, etc-

Swipe detection works pretty well on iPhone. Good job. I couldn't do a swipe to turn on/off the toggle button. That would be a pretty sweet feature.

Agreed. Also something isn't quite right with the toggle switch animation itself. Lack of easing perhaps? Hard to tell. Throw me off though. Otherwise looks and feels superb on 3GS and 3.0

Definitely will add. Feel free to post suggestions here: http://code.google.com/p/jqtouch/issues/list

That's funny, I was just going through old bookmarks the other day, and this is one of the ones I decided to keep.

BTW, welcome to news.yc davidkaneda. If you like, you can drop links to whatever projects you're working on in your profile: http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=davidkaneda

Hey NICE work!! I've been looking for something like this for a while... iUI is great, but fails horribly on certain clients.

I've been keeping an eye on this project. It's maturing nicely. However, for those doing exclusive iphone/webkit dev, check out: http://paularmstrongdesigns.com/projects/basejs/

It's much more lightweight and designed for said platform.

Very slick - Even on the iPhone (3g) which has been a problem with other frameworks.

Anyone know how this works for windows mobile devices?

It doesn't, it's not meant to (I'm the creator, btw)-

I downloaded the Iris Browser which is based on webkit which was hard to find because Rim bought Torch Mobile and you can't download it from their site anymore. That may have been the last hope for a decent browser on Windows Mobile. Anyway, some of the features worked but it doesn't look as good as the video. Sometimes the back button didn't work and the About window wouldn't close. Mostly everything else worked but Page Flip. Keep up the good work.

This looks awesome on the iphone

How does this look on the Pre?

Not perfectly- See some of the notes above-