Re:Serious geopolitical change -- China's submarine shadowed...
by hugh on Tuesday November 13, 2007 @04:11PM
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Reasons why this may not be such a big deal:
1. Diesel-electric submarines from various countries (including, I think, Germany and Australia) have been known to lurk near US aircraft carriers before. It's not that surprising that a Chinese one managed it too.
2. We don't know whether the submarine actually managed to sneak up on the carrier, or whether it just lurked at the bottom and waited for it to approach.
3. The Kittyhawk is an old carrier and doesn't have all the anti-submarine warfare capabilities of the newer ones.
4. For all we know, the carrier might have detected the submarine anyway and decided to pretend it didn't, so they can avoid giving away how good their sonar actually is.
Regardless of what the British tabloids might think, I don't necessarily think this represents a "serious geopolitical change".
Re:Serious geopolitical change -- China's submarine shadowed...
by byteCoder on Tuesday November 13, 2007 @04:13PM
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A diesel-electric submarine based on 50+ year old technology (i.e., small and quiet) sneaks up on America's high tech fleet in the middle of a war game.
Serious geopolitical change? I'm sorry, no. (Please don't sensationalize such headlines ala reddit.)
Problems in the high tech detection systems of the American military? Yes, that's the ticket.
Re:Serious geopolitical change -- China's submarine shadowed...
by tptacek on Tuesday November 13, 2007 @04:23PM
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Other Navies have apparently routinely snapped periscope-depth/range pictures of US warships. This isn't news. It's not even evidence that the Chinese were undetected.
Re:Serious geopolitical change -- China's submarine shadowed...
by DanielBMarkham on Tuesday November 13, 2007 @04:11PM
(#79498)
Wonder why they are building a deep water navy and starting up this cold war kind of gamesmanship? I don't see them in a lot of peacekeeping or international aide missions. They certainly make a lot of threats towards Taiwan, though.
1. Diesel-electric submarines from various countries (including, I think, Germany and Australia) have been known to lurk near US aircraft carriers before. It's not that surprising that a Chinese one managed it too.
2. We don't know whether the submarine actually managed to sneak up on the carrier, or whether it just lurked at the bottom and waited for it to approach.
3. The Kittyhawk is an old carrier and doesn't have all the anti-submarine warfare capabilities of the newer ones.
4. For all we know, the carrier might have detected the submarine anyway and decided to pretend it didn't, so they can avoid giving away how good their sonar actually is.
Regardless of what the British tabloids might think, I don't necessarily think this represents a "serious geopolitical change".
Serious geopolitical change? I'm sorry, no. (Please don't sensationalize such headlines ala reddit.)
Problems in the high tech detection systems of the American military? Yes, that's the ticket.
Please, tell me this isn't so!
Can't we get more unique links rather than this whole sloshing around of whatever's going around as email attachments?