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Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by gambiting on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @06:40AM (#7943142)
Unless you have no other choice. In Poland where I come from all trains are state-owned and each journey costs exactly the same regardless of the time of the booking. The cost of the ticket for a train to the capital on Monday morning costs exactly the same if bought 5 minutes before departure and 6 months before departure.

In the UK on the other hand, all train lines are private,and they charge whatever they like if there is demand. So a morning train to London will cost hundreds of pounds if bought 5 minutes before departure,but only 20 pounds if bought 3 months in advance. I find this offensive on the deepest level. I understand that this is how capitalism works,but it is against human freedom and flexibility, in order to do nothing else but maximize corporate profits.

Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by jpatokal on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @07:02AM (#7943230)
But it goes both ways -- if you can plan in advance and are happy to travel at an unpopular time (middle of the day etc), you can get dirt cheap fares, much cheaper than the regular/full fare.

In Japan, by contrast, the Shinkansen bullet train from Tokyo to Osaka costs around Y14,000 (~US$140), every day, all the time. So at unpopular times, the trains are half empty, because people fly or take highway buses or drive instead, all of which are slower and less environmentally friendly, but deregulated and thus cheaper. I find this offensive on the deepest level.

Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by potatolicious on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @10:14AM (#7943967)
But we don't see this effect happening. Uber for example does not do "counter surge" pricing when demand is abnormally low, the price always bottoms out at "normal fare".

The consumer only stands to lose. Travel at a busy time and pay more. Travel at normal times for normal fares. Travel at low times for... normal fares.

Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by gambiting on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @08:37AM (#7943503)
>> you can get dirt cheap fares, much cheaper than the regular/full fare.

I think you got tricked into believing that you are getting a deal. You are not. The "dirt cheap" fare is what the regular/full fare should be, it's not a promotion or a good deal.

The problem with Shinkansen pricing is that its always expensive. There is no surge pricing,but the baseline price is still too expensive. That is an entirely different problem altogether.

Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by haberman on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @11:43AM (#7944650)
> The "dirt cheap" fare is what the regular/full fare should be

Why? Just because you say so?

What if the "dirt cheap" fare, offered all the time, wouldn't even cover the costs of running the line?

Is your salary higher than you absolutely need to survive? If so, how do you justify your demand-based rate hike?

Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by jpatokal on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @07:46PM (#7947402)
I've paid something like 10 euros to travel the ~250km from Dusseldorf to Frankfurt in a high-speed ICE bullet train. There is no way in hell they could operate that service if everybody was paying that price.
Re:How Google I/O impacts Airbnb Availability by jarek on Wednesday June 25, 2014 @06:52AM (#7943188)
To clarify this example, the capacity of the train doesn't change when a ticket is bought on the day of travel, so the higher pricing is simply because they can, not because it costs more to add necessary capacity.