So adding www makes his example completely moot. If shortness were an issue then why only use www.qwertqwert.com ?

I never claimed that his example was representative of a useful, short domain name, I simply pointed out that you came to a conclusion that was wrong after doing far too little research. If you have a problem with the length of his domain name, I'd suggest commenting to him, not me.

The downmods are ridiculous, did I honestly distract from the conversation or did everyone disagree that putting www in front fixes it? This place is dying.

qwertqwert Ctrl-Enter is pretty short and works in most Windows browsers (such as you're likely to find in an internet cafe)

(ctrl-enter adds a leading http://www. and a trailing .com if either is missing)

good point. thanks for the hint.

Domains that require www need to die.