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Re:Stockman bill allows taxpayers to use same lame excuses a... by x0x0 on Friday June 20, 2014 @07:09PM (#7923407)
So, for people who aren't tea-party morons, here's what actually happened:

The irs keeps 6 months of emails on tape; when investigators asked for emails in mid-2013, tape was available through late 2012.

Lerner's computer crashed in mid-2011, and there is contemporaneous documentation of this crash.

2011 < 2013, it's not as if she could know that her emails would be requested in the future.

Some emails have been recovered the obvious way -- by querying the other parties.

one of many (nonmoronic) sources: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/06/yet-another-ir...

Re:Stockman bill allows taxpayers to use same lame excuses a... by CWilliams1013 on Friday June 20, 2014 @07:48PM (#7923503)
> The irs keeps 6 months of emails on tape; when investigators asked for emails in mid-2013, tape was available through late 2012.

IRS guidelines state that official records, in accordance with the Federal Records Act, must be retained (at the very least archived as a hardcopy). So the IRS is institutionally violating their own guidelines, as well as federal law?

> 2011 < 2013, it's not as if she could know that her emails would be requested in the future.

Except for the letter sent by Chairman Camp to then-Commissioner Schulman riiiiight before the crash: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/non_6103_ltr_fin...

Re:Stockman bill allows taxpayers to use same lame excuses a... by bignaj on Friday June 20, 2014 @07:20PM (#7923446)
I'm not interested in the political side of this whatsoever, but you have to realize that Mother Jones is about as non-partisan as the National Review is[1] and is not going to convince those who would like a more neutral view. I'm not saying this analysis is wrong but could have picked a better source IMO...

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Modern_liberal_America...

Re:Stockman bill allows taxpayers to use same lame excuses a... by ars on Friday June 20, 2014 @07:44PM (#7923494)
> it's not as if she could know that her emails would be requested in the future.

Really? You do something illegal, or unethical and don't expect anyone to ever come check up on you?

The IRS should be saving emails forever, or at the very minimum for 3 years.