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Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by throwaway6637 on Friday June 13, 2014 @05:54AM (#7888013)
But SR was not exclusively for drug sellers.

Most of the business there was drugs, obviously, but some amount of that money would have bought legitimate items. So what gives them the right to sell off that money?

Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by topynate on Friday June 13, 2014 @07:27AM (#7888224)
Users sent bitcoins to SR to hold for them, in return for a promise to return them on demand. So SR's assets and liabilities both increased with each deposit. Then USG seized SR's assets (under what right? That SR was an illegal enterprise established to facilitate narcotics sales). SR still has liabilities to its users, but now it can't meet them. Note that SR's liabilities are no concern of USG.

Come on guys, is it so hard to understand that if you exchange an asset for a security, you don't own the asset anymore?

Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by mpyne on Friday June 13, 2014 @01:05PM (#7889793)
> Come on guys, is it so hard to understand that if you exchange an asset for a security, you don't own the asset anymore?

In this case this fact is directly contrary to a worldview held by many at HN, so I suspect everyone pointing out how property law actually works is in for a long slog.

Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by rplnt on Friday June 13, 2014 @05:57AM (#7888018)
Also, if I understand it correctly, many of those coins were not preallocated to any sale. They were just sitting there to be used in the future. So whether they would be used for drugs or something legal is irrelevant.
Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by kzrdude on Friday June 13, 2014 @06:19AM (#7888062)
The question still remains, what is the legal basis of confiscating the coins?
Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by bostonpete on Friday June 13, 2014 @12:01PM (#7889480)
Imagine you hand your local crack dealer a wad of cash to hold for you temporarily. The crack dealer adds it to his bigger wad of cash and promptly gets busted. The drugs and money he's holding are seized. That's what happened here. Would you expect the government to return your wad of cash?
Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by stonemetal on Friday June 13, 2014 @12:32PM (#7889647)
If I was buying a pack of gum or a lighter from him, then yes I would.
Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by owenmarshall on Friday June 13, 2014 @02:25PM (#7890186)
Then you should've filed a claim with the court after:

1) the government filed "US v. A Wad of Cash Found in the Pocket of Danny Drugdealer"

2) the wad of cash was found to be subject to forfeiture

3) Danny Drugdealer didn't contest that he was innocent of drug dealin' or he attempted to and lost

4) The government posted that the wad of cash was subject to forfeiture at www.forfeiture.gov.

You'd then be entitled to make the case that ten dollars in Danny Drugdealer's wad of cash actually belonged to you and were not subject to forfeiture. You might've even won!

No one filed a claim to block forfeiture of all or part of the Silk Road bitcoins. Not even DPR. I think everyone knows why that is.

Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by Cthulhu_ on Friday June 13, 2014 @08:53AM (#7888516)
SR was an illegal drug marketplace - what more legal basis are you expecting?
Re:For Sale: 29,656.51306529 Bitcoins by logfromblammo on Friday June 13, 2014 @12:14PM (#7889558)
None. At least none, in my system of ethics.

They did it because they had the capability. Civil forfeiture is an absolute perversion of the justice system, and is a direct contributor to police corruption. The damage it causes to the integrity of our rule of law is far greater than any deterrent effect it may have upon crimes.