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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by leorocky on Thursday June 12, 2014 @09:52AM (#7883363)
This website is even difficult to read on a regular desktop browser (too wide, downvoted comments increasingly impossible to read causing eye strain). I recommend using your own content script with Chrome. This may not help on your iPad but on Android you can use Firefox with your own userscript. It's the only way I can tolerate it.

It would probably take a competent someone a few hours to fix the readability issues of this site but they just never get around to it.

Edit:

Here's a link to what all comments look like for me, even if they're downvoted:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v5zcn9n4vg4m3cn/2014-06-1...

I also disabled scores and voting because I dislike that stuff.

This is the home page:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/sicqor50smsl4hx/2014-06-1...

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by shutupalready on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:10AM (#7883476)
joblessjunkie means the original article's site.

Pinch-to-zoom works fine on HackerNews on an iPad, and the HackerNews font is nothing unusual.

Regarding HN being too wide, why don't you narrow your browser window?

Personally, I like the fact the traditional web design in which HN adjusts the line to screen width rather than imposing a width.

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by claudius on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:19AM (#7883532)
Hm, I’d be happy with some max-width:50em or so on the actual text. Now if only Firefox had a built-in way to apply custom user stylesheets to websites…
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by pmontra on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:35AM (#7883623)
It's not built-in but the Stylish extension does that.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by sp332 on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:50AM (#7883697)
Claudius is being sarcastic. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserContent.css
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by claudius on Thursday June 12, 2014 @12:10PM (#7884228)
Sarcastic, yes, but mostly relating to Opera 12.x’s UserCSS features; I didn’t actually know about userContent.css. Thanks for the pointer, although it seems to be impossible to only apply it to certain sites?
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by sp332 on Thursday June 12, 2014 @12:54PM (#7884506)
@-moz-document url-prefix() or @-moz-document domain() ? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@document http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=286866
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by claudius on Thursday June 12, 2014 @02:20PM (#7885100)
Yay, thank you for the handholding, it actually seems to work quite nicely :-)
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by judk on Thursday June 12, 2014 @11:34AM (#7883985)
Chrome however is deprecating this feature. Stylish will be required.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by krapp on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:40AM (#7883641)
greasemonkey can too, with the added benefit of being able to script the page as well.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by thefreeman on Thursday June 12, 2014 @12:08PM (#7884209)
Personally, I like the fact the traditional web design in which HN adjusts the line to screen width rather than imposing a width.

Its just that it ruins the experience on mobile devices because you can't resize the window and zooming doesn't reflow the text.

for what it's worth, I don't really have a problem with it. They provide an API and there are like 90 billion ycombinator mobile apps to choose from which do a better job.

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by mreiland on Thursday June 12, 2014 @06:12PM (#7886306)
ah, it's a mobile issue. I strictly use a desktop for HN and was confused about why people were complaining.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by Alupis on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:40AM (#7883644)
The Original article seems to mis-quote browser marketshare. They have IE10 listed as 3% of the market and "Other" as 36%? And all the IE's combined for 19% market share? Everything I've seen (except the original article) list the IE's at a combined market share somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-70%., with IE8 still having a dominant 15-20%.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by tendom on Thursday June 12, 2014 @11:23AM (#7883896)
I'm not sure what the global numbers are at right now, but Microsoft and Google have roughly 30% each in America.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by wfjackson on Thursday June 12, 2014 @11:33AM (#7883980)
See my other comment for the reason for discrepancy.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7883973

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by leorocky on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:19AM (#7883535)
> Regarding HN being too wide, why don't you narrow your browser window?

Narrow my browser window because this one site makes it difficult to read? I could do that, or I could just use a content script and leave my browser at the width I prefer. I maximize my browser for distraction free reading.

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by mreiland on Thursday June 12, 2014 @06:11PM (#7886303)
Can you explain to me the issue with it being too wide?

I may not be understanding it, because I just maximized the window and I don't see any issue, really.

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by EpicEng on Thursday June 12, 2014 @05:30PM (#7886071)
Eight,I'm sure I'm going to resize my browser just to read HN and then maximize it again when I navigate away to a site which uses a sane content width. No need to be an apologist. I like the content here,but the design in many respects,is awful (expired links anyone?).
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by mreiland on Thursday June 12, 2014 @06:09PM (#7886291)
I have no issues whatsoever with the width/layout issues, but the expires links... yes.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by joesmo on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:29AM (#7883592)
Oftentimes, narrowing HN below 1280px is still not enough as the content then scrolls sideways, so there is a very good argument for putting a width on content that doesn't adjust to the window size properly.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by judk on Thursday June 12, 2014 @11:32AM (#7883975)
HN doesn't reflow/wrap text to window size on Android Chrome or Firefox. Only the pre-KitKat "Browser" works on HN.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by pbz on Thursday June 12, 2014 @01:00PM (#7884543)
Opera kept that feature, it works.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by andyroid on Thursday June 12, 2014 @02:51PM (#7885271)
I just downloaded Opera for Android because of this, but no, it does not work as the old android browser did. Or do I need to adjust a setting for this somewhere?
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by dbaupp on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:00AM (#7883412)
I don't think joblessjunkie was talking about HN.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by glitchdout on Thursday June 12, 2014 @12:09PM (#7884215)
On my desktop browser, I can only browse Hacker News with zoom at 150%.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by Aardwolf on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:18AM (#7883523)
Just select the text of a downvoted comment to have readable colors
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by pjc50 on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:22AM (#7883551)
HN is tiny and unreadable in default Android chrome.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by DanBC on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:43AM (#7883659)
Hard to read downvoted comments is a feature not a usability bug.

Down voted comments are supposed to be hard for everyone to read.

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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by alistairSH on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:54AM (#7883723)
I don't think a screen reader would pick up the down-voted comments as different from other comments. So, it's still broken from an accessibility standpoint.
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by dspeyer on Thursday June 12, 2014 @12:28PM (#7884339)
Aural style sheets? Do they work?
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Re:3% use IE9 and 14% have a disability. Why do we only cate... by Isofarro on Thursday June 12, 2014 @02:47PM (#7885252)
I think Emacspeak was the only screen reader that supported even just a limited subset of aural styles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacspeak

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