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Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by edw519 on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @11:13AM (#787294)
Nothing is more important than a human life. Not all the institutions, policies, procedures, systems, etc. we have built.

If it's too much trouble to modify existing systems and instutions, the just use this handy formula for binary decision making:

  The greater of (existingResult) and (any instance of a HumanLife)
Dilemma solved.
Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by mustpax on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @11:52AM (#787383)
I definitely agree with the humanist sentiment here. But an institutionalist would argue that the institutions, policies, procedures, systems have been set up to prevent countless losses of human life and human dignity. Undermining them for the sake of accommodating a single outlier would result in much more harm overall.

I don't necessarily agree with this line of argument. But people will keep making it, so it's worth formulating a response to it if you want to win the debate. (Not that rational discourse wins any debates these days.)

Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by khafra on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @12:03PM (#787409)
Eliezer Yudkowsky's dissolving of the consequentialist/deontologist divide can be applied here, I think: Nothing is more precious than a human life. But people die, so we have to make compromises to minimize the rate of unnecessary death; there's no use spending all your time and resources to build a completely death-proof car if you then die of untreated appendicitis you were too busy to have fixed.

In addition to that opportunity cost concern, there's knock-on effects, like you touched on, mustpax. Letting a killer live saves one human life now, but a policy of letting killers live may end far more human lives in the future. Personally, I don't think the data supports that, but if it did that's a choice we'd have to make.

Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by edw519 on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @11:56AM (#787389)
Undermining them for the sake of accommodating a single outlier would result in much more harm overall.

The magnitude of "overall harm" is not an issue.

I simply adopted the axiom of "nothing is more important than a single human life" and came up with one approach to make sure that axiom is never violated. There may be better approaches.

Agreement on this axiom is a necessary first step. I'm not sure we have it. What a shame.

Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by khafra on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @12:04PM (#787414)
The most fundamental issue, I think, is where "two human lives" falls on your importance scale.
Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by rajat on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @11:54AM (#787384)
That pretty much prohibits any kind of law enforcement that utilizes potentially lethal force.

In real life, there is no escape from balancing potential risks (in this case, of innocents being killed) and benefits.

Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by edw519 on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @12:03PM (#787411)
That pretty much prohibits any kind of law enforcement that utilizes potentially lethal force.

If you've ever worked in public safety or law enforcement, you'd realize how uninformed that opinion is.

Law enforcement officers don't carry weapons to use them, they carry them as deterrent. Good law enforcement officers regard the use of deadly force as either a last resort measure or just bad police work.

Re:Did the Supreme Court Recognize an Innocent Person's Righ... by hughprime on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @12:04PM (#787415)
Nothing is more important than a human life? So you would, say, compel a thousand people into slavery in order to save one human life?