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Re:Introducing Swift by dfc on Monday June 02, 2014 @03:58PM (#7835868)

  > So if Apple's goal was to get new devs into the iOS world, at least
  > from 10k feet, it's working
They just announced Swift, at a conference for Apple developers, with live streaming that is only easily accessed from an ios device. I think it is probably premature to pop the corks and celebrate the efficacy of the get new developers initiative.
Re:Introducing Swift by lavamantis on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:32PM (#7836154)
As someone wise mentioned to me, Objective-c was 20% of the problem and Apple's silly rules and controls around app distribution are the other 80%. As someone who had their app available in the app store for nearly 8 months including 3 approved updates before being (seemingly) arbitrarily rejected, I feel the pain of that other 80%.
Re:Introducing Swift by tylermac1 on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:00PM (#7835889)
How else are they supposed to announce it? It's simply that, an announcement. People are talking about it now and there's info on the Apple site. I see this as a huge push forward for new developers.
Re:Introducing Swift by stonemetal on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:08PM (#7835956)
The announcement was fine, it is the "its working" part that is odd considering it is less than a day old. Let's see if it actually attracts new developers before we declare it a mighty success.
Re:Introducing Swift by mtrimpe on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:09PM (#7835970)
Well; based on the promise of immediate inclusion in the app store and a very well thought out book about the language available for free I'd say they're doing rather well so far already.
Re:Introducing Swift by dfc on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:49PM (#7836270)
You mentioned things that are likely to bring about the desired result of creating new ios developers. I am not disagreeing about the likelihood of success. I am simply saying that T + 8h is probably too soon to conclude that the program is successfully creating new ios developers. To be honest I think it is absurd to expect that such a program from any company could bring about the desired goal of creating new developers in less than eight hours.