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Re:The Unitedstates Project by atonse on Friday May 30, 2014 @03:59PM (#7823680)
This is awesome - though I'm amused that the site that clearly represents US data, is hosted on an overseas domain... (.io = British Indian Ocean Territory).

Edit: All snark aside though, this really is awesome. I can imagine all kinds of useful things that come out of this sort of structured data, including just interesting information (like demographic patterns of various politicians, etc).

Re:The Unitedstates Project by stormbrew on Friday May 30, 2014 @04:09PM (#7823728)
Most of the people on the BIOT islands are American, though. The natives were expelled to build a US military base.
Re:The Unitedstates Project by JumpCrisscross on Friday May 30, 2014 @06:31PM (#7824461)
This is a fascinating and shockingly current story. Thank you for the pointer.

"The depopulation of Chagossians from the Chagos Archipelago, that is, the compelled expulsion of the indigenous inhabitants of the island of Diego Garcia and the other islands of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) by the United Kingdom, at the request of the United States of America, began in 1968 and concluded on 27 April 1973 with the evacuation of Peros Banhos atoll.

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On April 1, 2010, the British Cabinet announced the creation of the world’s largest Marine Protected Area (MPA) which consists of most of the Chagos Archipelago, homeland of the Chagossians. The MPA will prohibit extractive industry of all kinds, including commercial fishing and oil and gas exploration. Some Chagossians have claimed that this MPA was created to prevent the islanders from returning to the islands.

On December 1, 2010, a leaked US Embassy London diplomatic cable exposed British and US communications in creating the marine nature reserve. The cable relays exchanges between US Political Counselor Richard Mills and British Director of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office Colin Roberts, in which Roberts 'asserted that establishing a marine park would, in effect, put paid to resettlement claims of the archipelago’s former residents'. The cable (reference ID '09LONDON1156')[citation needed] was classified as confidential and 'no foreigners', and leaked as part of the Cablegate cache."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Chagossians_fro...

Re:The Unitedstates Project by rwallace on Friday May 30, 2014 @06:05PM (#7824354)
Didn't the .io domain get repurposed for general use, which is why so many projects and companies have started using it lately?
Re:The Unitedstates Project by buu700 on Friday May 30, 2014 @08:09PM (#7824734)
Not exactly; Google just recategorised it in their indexing system as a generic ccTLD (a technically-country-specific TLD treated as though it weren't).
Re:The Unitedstates Project by dba7dba on Friday May 30, 2014 @04:53PM (#7824016)
It's surprising in this day of age no easily obtainable digital data of US demographics is available.

Yeah, it would be really awesome to just click a few times to see make up of a politician's district.

Hope the project does well.

Re:The Unitedstates Project by dfc on Friday May 30, 2014 @05:21PM (#7824163)
You mean something that would allow "access [to] selected statistics about your Congressional district"? With a informative name like "My Congressional District"? Easily found by navigating to the tools and data section of the government entity that collects statistics about the population?

My Congressional District: https://www.census.gov/mycd/

Other tools from census.gov: https://www.census.gov/data/data-tools.html

Re:The Unitedstates Project by rpedela on Saturday May 31, 2014 @10:26AM (#7826091)
That tool helps with the parent's particular complaint, but I think the broader point is accurate. It is definitely too hard to find useful raw data, and it is even harder to find raw data that is already is a useful format. Specifically talking about the census data, their format is custom and complex [1]. They do have an API [2] which makes it easier, but I still have to write code to download a version of the census data that is in a useful format. Why can't I just have a download link to a SQL script, JSON file, or a tarball with a bunch of CSV files?

I have the same question for the United States project. Why YAML for congress-legislators? It is certainly better than creating their own custom format, but I still have to do work if I want to import the data into a database or Excel.

1. http://www2.census.gov/census_2000/datasets/

2. http://www.census.gov/data/developers/data-sets/decennial-ce...

Re:The Unitedstates Project by obituary_latte on Friday May 30, 2014 @08:58PM (#7824849)
People are lazy. Anything that works to circumvent that fact should be applauded.
Re:The Unitedstates Project by dfc on Friday May 30, 2014 @09:32PM (#7824921)
I do not understand your comment. OP lamented the lack of easy access to demographic data, commenting that "it would be really awesome to just click a few times to see make up of a politician's district" and I gave a link to exactly what OP was longing for. The only remaining laziness circumvention is an application that reads your mind. You think bothering to look before complaining is too much to ask of individuals who comment on HN posts?
Re:The Unitedstates Project by obituary_latte on Friday May 30, 2014 @09:48PM (#7824961)
My point is this: how many people are there as motivated as op? Motivated enough to comment on an obscure website in hopes of being pointed in the right direction?

Perhaps maybe the disconnect is in that I -- and maybe op as well -- are thinking in the context of people as a whole, and you are thinking in the context of people as members HN.

Re:The Unitedstates Project by dfc on Friday May 30, 2014 @10:08PM (#7825009)
Lets talk about "people as a whole" who are interested in "a few clicks access to congressional district demographics." You think it is too much to ask to have them type "congressional district demographics" into a search box? If you put this search into google "My Congressional District" is the first result. I don't know how you make that any easier to find short of creating a mind reading application.

https://www.google.com/search?q=congressional+district+demog...

Re:The Unitedstates Project by obituary_latte on Friday May 30, 2014 @10:13PM (#7825016)
>You think it is too much to ask to have them type "congressional district demographics"..

For the majority of the (US at least) population? Absolutely yes. Hence the term "circumvention". No way this fight is won, at least at this point, over a battle of logic.

In this day and age, instigating change needs to be as simple as possible.

Maybe what I'm saying doesn't make sense. If so, apologies.