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Re:If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers by croggle on Thursday May 29, 2014 @09:38PM (#7819685)
I work with a very well known Java and Spring based ecommerce platform. I find that people new to the platform, regardless of Java and Spring experience, take a while to produce really good design and code.

You might know the frameworks and languages but sometimes you need experience in the specific platform.

I work in consultancy so I rarely have time to up skill someone into the platform.

Is my platform brown?

Re:If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers by emsy on Friday May 30, 2014 @01:33AM (#7820451)
That sounds like the platform is relatively complex. I've seen Java/JavaEE/Spring code where it was easy to get started, since the platform was built as simple as possible. I've also seen Big Balls of Mud where a developer needed months to be somewhat productive. So the question shouldn't be: "Is my platform brown?" But rather: "Have you ever worked on a freaking castle with hundreds of secret passages?".

Sometimes complexity is unavoidable. The interviewer may ask a question like: "What are your experiences with complex code/legacy code?" (If the interviewer is able to accept the reality of course)

Re:If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers by jfoutz on Thursday May 29, 2014 @10:11PM (#7819806)
No, you need a cooper. Making watertight barrels is really hard, a house builder can make great houses, but probably crappy barrels.
Re:If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers by jakejake on Thursday May 29, 2014 @10:56PM (#7819993)
I wouldn't say that was brown exactly, but I know exactly what you mean with big ecommerce platforms and all kinds of other vertical-market software. It can take months or even years to learn all of the tricks.

That being said, it is always a gamble. A great programmer might pay off in the long run more than a mediocre programmer who already knows the platform... or not!

Re:If Carpenters Were Hired Like Programmers by davegardner on Friday May 30, 2014 @12:20AM (#7820258)
No brown is the colour the wood was painted afterwards. In the context of this story, I'd say your platform is walnut.