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Re:How Apple Cheats by dilap on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @06:57AM (#7809274)
Yeah, in a monopoly situation I see where you're coming from, but Apple has very healthy competition from Android. It's not currently in Apple's interest to hobble 3rd party apps; quite the opposite.
Re:How Apple Cheats by reidrac on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @07:21AM (#7809345)
If Apple is a abusing his position as OS provider by using in their apps APIs that are not available to other app developers, I'm not sure if the right answer is "go and develop for Android instead".

What I think it may be different in Apple's case is that they don't usually build apps that compete with apps from other developers like Microsoft did.

Re:How Apple Cheats by seszett on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @11:29AM (#7810741)
> What I think it may be different in Apple's case is that they don't usually build apps that compete with apps from other developers like Microsoft did.

They sometimes do, though, with Maps for example.

... and Maps is precisely one of the apps that use private APIs.

Re:How Apple Cheats by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:28PM (#7811123)
I haven't checked into it lately but Apple certainly used to ban any competing apps from its app store. So if you had an iTunes competitor, you weren't going to get it released for iOS. http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-blocks-competitive-products-f...
Re:How Apple Cheats by sheetjs on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:30PM (#7811135)
On a side note: I wonder why they hard coded the 4 names rather than grant access to all apps with bundle identifiers starting with "com.apple."
Re:How Apple Cheats by fleitz on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:43PM (#7811265)
Because it's technically possible to create an app with a com.apple bundleID.
Re:How Apple Cheats by Pinwheeler on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:37PM (#7811209)
Haha, that is a good observation! Bring that up at an Apple interview!
Re:How Apple Cheats by seanmccann on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:43PM (#7811263)
Joke: To prevent the other internal Apple app teams from cheating!
Re:How Apple Cheats by loup-vaillant on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @09:28AM (#7809759)
It's a local monopoly. An iOS user won't just switch to Android. Not overnight, at least.
Re:How Apple Cheats by al2o3cr on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @10:01AM (#7809907)
"local monopoly": meaningless. That's like saying that Gmail has a "local monopoly" on web-based email because switching would be a hassle.
Re:How Apple Cheats by paulhauggis on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @10:31AM (#7810110)
many people still considered windows a monopoly, when you could easily buy redhat at most local stores. MS Office file formats were also considered a monopoly by Richard Stallman, because businesses used them and it was difficult to now change (there are tons of competing formats).

the tech industry likes to change definitions to fit their viewpoints.

Re:How Apple Cheats by SoftwareMaven on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @11:53AM (#7810898)
What people think is a monopoly and the legal definition of a monopoly is different. You have to be able to show harm to e consumer, something's hat is going to be challenging to show with a handful of hidden APIs. APIs, it should be noted, that somebody could implement themselves (at least for the sample given; whether it would be approved is, of course, questionable).

On the other hand, it could be used as evidence of part of a larger anti-trust case, but given that Android devices are cheaper, perform just as well, and have a strong ecosystem, that's going to be hard to pull off.

Re:How Apple Cheats by mseebach on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @01:00PM (#7811396)
'Local monopoly' is meaningless. Every single business has a local monopoly on supplying services under the contracts they've made with their customers. And yes, Apple's total control of iOS is very much part of the contract when buying an iPhone.

When deciding if a monopoly exists, the relevant threshold is whether the customer had other reasonable options at the time of entering the contract, and in the smartphone world they unequivocally did have other options.

Re:How Apple Cheats by wlesieutre on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @10:48AM (#7810224)
iOS users do switch to Android. You don't see it all the time because users (in the US at least) are stuck in 2 year contracts and phones are an expensive purchase. But they do.

Does Honda have a "local monopoly" on sedans because Civic drivers don't usually switch to a Kia Forte overnight?

Re:How Apple Cheats by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:03PM (#7810972)
Not quite, because "sedans" is not the relevant market. It isn't that you can't buy a Kia the next time you go to buy a car, it's that once you own a Civic you have to put Civic replacement parts on it. So then you get the relevant question, does Honda have a monopoly on any Civic replacements parts? Some parts (e.g. brake pads) may be produced by third parties in competition with Honda, so for those parts the answer is no. For other Civic parts not made by anyone else, the answer is yes.

So to get back to Apple: They don't have a monopoly on smartphones, they have a monopoly on iOS app stores.

Re:How Apple Cheats by dalore on Thursday May 29, 2014 @04:28AM (#7815298)
You can't run Android apps on iOS so there is no healthy competition there.
Re:How Apple Cheats by maaku on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:27PM (#7811121)
Please show me where I can get Android installed on my iOS device.
Re:How Apple Cheats by wannabee on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @12:40PM (#7811238)
Re:How Apple Cheats by nivla on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @01:07PM (#7811458)
But that would require JailBreaking and voiding the warranty. An even more interesting question would be can we install iOS on an Android device without breaking the warranty? or are we in a state where all hardware warranties are determined by the OS on it?
Re:How Apple Cheats by spb on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @04:40PM (#7812726)
That project hasn't been updated in years, and the home page has lapsed for lack of payment.
Re:How Apple Cheats by kirkbackus on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @11:42AM (#7810830)
Agreed, it is like comparing apples and oranges.