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Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by mistermann on Sunday May 18, 2014 @12:12PM (#7763419)
Informative: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm http://www.mendosa.com/satiety.htm http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/foods-high-satiation-3799.ht...

Imho the easiest way by far to lose weight is eat foods that combine low carb + high satiation index.

Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by greggman on Sunday May 18, 2014 @01:43PM (#7763692)
Thanks for the suggestion

It's not about satiation for me. It's about quantity. My point was until I've eaten a plate of food where plate of food equals pretty much any "standard" picture of a plate of food (https://www.google.com/search?q=plate+of+food&tbm=isch) my brain thinks "Dang, you haven't really eaten yet" and yet pretty much every picture in that link is over >1000 calories.

Note, I'm not saying satiating foods wouldn't be better. Maybe I won't desire a snack later or maybe if I eat slow I'll stop earlier (unlikely). Rather, I'm saying many years of eating a plate of food, and possibly second helpings, has my mind thinking and looking forward to those quantities. As in "Oh Boy it's dinner time! Looking forward to that plate-o-food!" then "Awwwwwwww, that's all I can eat be under my limit. That's not even 1/2 a plate worth."

I do it but I don't like it because my mind/habit/experience/expectation is "meal = XXXX" not "meal = XX"

Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by qu4z-2 on Sunday May 18, 2014 @08:31PM (#7765063)
Silly as it sounds... have you tried using smaller plates?

I find having a small plate stacked high seems more like a "real meal" than the same amount of food spread thinly on a larger plate.

Then again, if you're in Japan, I guess you've been exposed to that trick a fair bit.

Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by mistermann on Sunday May 18, 2014 @03:53PM (#7764145)
I recommend you read up on a bit and give it a try, in my experience once you get past the first few days it is MUCH easier than you would think. Also, I believe participating (or at least lurking) in a community, looking at progress pictures (and reading the stories behind them) provides a much needed psychological base to stand on for this task - as you've noted, you personally seem to have strong psychological hurdles.
Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by greggman on Monday May 19, 2014 @02:29AM (#7765985)
Thanks. I'll give it try. And I'm not really having trouble. It just takes will power.

My point wasn't about my troubles. My point was, even if you came up with a pill that 100% satiated me, satiation is not the only thing I want from eating. I wouldn't be like "Yay! I had my meal in 1 second, I can get back to something else". Rather I'd be like "Whaaaaat? I wanted to stick delicious food in my mouth, taste it, chew it, lick it, swallow it. And I wanted to do that for 20-30 minutes."

There's enjoyment in the act of eating and for some, it requires quantity. I enjoy for example that Japanese desserts of often small. But I also missing being able to enjoy 40 bites of dessert rather than just 2 if that makes any sense. I enjoy eating a foot long sandwich over 10 minutes rather than a 1/4 foot long sandwich over 2.5 mins.

Sorry if I'm not making any sense. Like I said I'm not really having trouble sticking to my diet. Only noticing how I feel about it.

Re:Always Hungry? Here’s Why by jpindar on Sunday May 18, 2014 @06:52PM (#7764745)
It sounds like intermittent fasting would be the thing for you. When you only eat one meal a day, that meal can be reasonably large. Many people do find it easier to get used to skipping meals than to eating tiny ones.