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Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by e12e on Friday May 16, 2014 @01:49AM (#7753955)
I don't know about you, but I happen to live in a place were those things are still mostly under government control, and we very, very rarely see blackouts of the kind that have hit eg parts of the US from time to time.

And I don't need banking 24/7 to do my job. I don't need water 24/7 to live, especially if an outage is made public in advance. I am (too) dependent on electricity -- but there are alternatives if I need them (eg: rent/buy a generator and gasoline -- probably not viable in a massive blackout, though. At any rate it is certainly easy to plan for (and not too expensive)).

So most of these fall squarely in the "viable alternative" or not-essential (24/7) category.

Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by skrebbel on Friday May 16, 2014 @02:45AM (#7754068)
> I don't know about you, but I happen to live in a place were those things are still mostly under government control, and we very, very rarely see blackouts of the kind that have hit eg parts of the US from time to time.

That's just propaganda. I'm sure there's places where water and electricity are under government control and it still sucks, and i bet there's places where they aren't and everything works great.

It weakens the rest of your argument.

Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by hyperpape on Friday May 16, 2014 @07:38AM (#7754951)
And "I'm sure..." weakens your argument. Do you get the irony of saying the parent post is relying on propaganda while tacitly admitting you don't know whether what you're asserting is true?

Utilities and telcos are a weird industry, with issues of natural monopolies and last-mile issues. I don't know what the right way to handle them is, but the case against government intervention is much weaker.

Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by e12e on Friday May 16, 2014 @09:37AM (#7755387)
I fail to see how it weakens the argument that none of the utilities are without viable backup (as opposed to a one-of-a-kind SaaS).
Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by blueskin_ on Friday May 16, 2014 @06:49AM (#7754819)
I happen to live in a place where utilities are deregulated and people can choose from any number of competitors for their supplier, and US-style blackouts are literally completely unheard of.
Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by vetinari on Friday May 16, 2014 @08:38AM (#7755115)
Are you sure that the deregulation is not just empty word?

Yes, you can usually pick your own retailer for you utilities. But you cannot pick the distributor (downstream of the retailer, owns cables or pipes in your street) or transmission (upstream of the retailer, owns the cables or pipes providing your city).

The sales/distribution company usually doesn't own anything, they are just sales and marketing office. Everything is physically provided by companies, that you cannot choose.

Re:Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work by blueskin_ on Friday May 16, 2014 @09:10AM (#7755238)
No, but the sales balance on the National Grid is still based on competition, because it is regulated by the interaction of dozens of companies. The distributor has no control over who generates power, or how much is paid for it, and that is why there is no shortage [1].

With non-power utilities, even this isn't an issue - water or gas are never randomly shut off without warning.

[1] There is a small deficit of generation capacity under some conditions, primarily due to recent underinvestment in nuclear energy, so power is purchased from France routinely, who have a large surplus due to their much stronger generation infrastructure, but even if this became unavailable, the capacity is enough to prevent US-style grid failures.