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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mkempe on Saturday May 03, 2014 @01:10PM (#7691503)
What is the anticipated price/TB curve of SSD over the next five years? at what point would most consumer storage switch from HDD to SSD?

If we start with a HDD/SSD price ratio of 1:7 (based on a quick check with Amazon) and hope for SSDs to get cheaper/TB by 50% each coming 18 months (?) we'd have a strong incentive to switch by year 2019.

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by adventured on Saturday May 03, 2014 @01:22PM (#7691552)
I think we're pretty close to the mainstream switching now.

Inexpensive, large external HDDs will fill the gap on media storage for consumers long after the main drive has been switched to SSD for speed.

Consumers aren't going to wait for SSD to catch up to 5tb HDD externals that you'll be able to get for $129. They'll simply buy a system with 512gb to 1tb of SSD storage, and pick up the external if they need it.

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by nardi on Saturday May 03, 2014 @02:52PM (#7691938)
That already happened. The biggest computer manufacturer (Apple) doesn't sell a machine without an SSD.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by redial on Saturday May 03, 2014 @03:22PM (#7692050)
http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac

I think you are being a little premature. All iMacs have hard drives by default.

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by wazoox on Saturday May 03, 2014 @05:42PM (#7692440)
They are hybrid drives, though. The only pure HDD option seems to be the 3 TB drive.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by wazoox on Sunday May 04, 2014 @09:04AM (#7694128)
Weird, the product page seems to present the hybrid drive as the default option.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by alexcroox on Saturday May 03, 2014 @09:11PM (#7692960)
Definitely feeling the pain of the standard HDDs put in our 2013 27inch iMacs
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by konstruktor on Saturday May 03, 2014 @03:31PM (#7692077)
Interesting and eye-opening statement, but not entirely correct: The entry level iMac and Mac Mini SKUs have regular hard drives.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mikhailt on Saturday May 03, 2014 @10:46PM (#7693124)
Apple is not the biggest manufacturer, it's the most profitable but it is not the biggest one by far.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/09/apples-domestic-ma...

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mcintyre1994 on Saturday May 03, 2014 @04:15PM (#7692214)
Are Apple only the biggest if we include iPhones and/or iPads? I don't think anybody puts an HDD into a smartphone/tablet (it's surely all flash?) so it seems we'd have to limit the definition of computer to laptop/desktop to get anything interesting. Otherwise machines with an HDD are a minority already like you said.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by nardi on Saturday May 03, 2014 @10:13PM (#7693078)
Apple is the largest laptop/desktop manufacturer.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mcintyre1994 on Saturday May 03, 2014 @10:28PM (#7693102)
Do you have a source at all for that? I've found multiple articles saying Lenovo overtook HP for that title around July 2013 but nothing naming Apple. According to [0] Apple weren't in the top six at that point.

I did find articles from early 2012 calling Apple the biggest but that was of course based on iPads almost entirely. For example [1] has some figures from then, 5.2 million macs to over 10 million units each from HP, Lenovo and Dell.

[0] http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23637017/hewlett-packard-loses...

[1] http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/24/apple_now_largest_...

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mikhailt on Saturday May 03, 2014 @10:48PM (#7693130)
No, they're not. They're the most profitable, not the same as the biggest.

HP/Lenovo have the top two spots, they're selling tens of millions per quarter. Apple barely breaks 5 million.

Apple doesn't have great business nor governmental support, which eliminates them from being considered at thousands of companies.

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by nardi on Sunday May 04, 2014 @02:54AM (#7693567)
You're right. I was thinking of profit. Sorry for posting misinformation.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by rplnt on Sunday May 04, 2014 @05:54AM (#7693794)
Is that laptop market? Or combined? I wonder where Dell fits in.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mikhailt on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @01:04AM (#7702926)
In terms of the combined consumers sales, Dell is probably #3.

The revenue Dell pulled from their consumer division (which includes desktop/laptops/thin-clients/mobile devices and so on) is $8.9 billion.

> End User Computing revenue was $8.9 billion in the quarter, a 9 percent decrease. Operating income for the quarter was $224 million, a 65 percent decrease. Dell desktop and thin-client revenue declined 2 percent, mobility revenue declined 16 percent, and software from third parties and peripherals revenue declined 6 percent.

Source: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130516006383/en/Dell...

In Apple's '14 Q1 report, their Mac revenue was $6.4 billion. iPad: $11.4B and iPhone $32B for the total of ~$50B.

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by edward on Sunday May 04, 2014 @07:55AM (#7693975)
See my website that tracks price per TB of HDD and SSD:

http://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/

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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by mkempe on Sunday May 04, 2014 @10:45AM (#7694457)
That's very nice. Are you keeping historical data? These would be interesting as diagrams.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by edward on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @08:21AM (#7703967)
I have over two years of historical data. I'm going to make some charts.
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by Carioca on Sunday May 04, 2014 @11:02AM (#7694500)
You have laptop batteries in your SSD listings
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Re:SanDisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year. by edward on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @08:21AM (#7703975)
Thanks, newegg keep messing up the categories.
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