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Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by kamaal on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @12:36AM (#7671628)
>>Will it get me another job? ... If you can’t understand why I don’t waste my energy on doing seven balls overhead for a minute to make a youtube video for people to watch, then you haven’t entered the real world yet.

I had a similar discussion with my office colleagues a few weeks back. When there was a call for a 'Hacknight' at our workplace to drive revenues up, when a SVP panicked he was going to miss his target. And the people where asked to contribute and magically rescue the whole situation out of nowhere. Nearly every one agreed that they would not contribute a minute to that 'Hacknight'

When people just give up, start giving damn about things. Its generally because they've been taken for a ride, before. Once hard working night owl hackers stop doing things because they watch some jack ass four levels above them doing 1/100th the work but taking nearly everything that is right fully theirs.

The Hack night was a big flop, ofcourse the SVP called for a meeting next day and lectured about motivation and lack of passion in the team(Meaning, people not ready sacrifice a great deal and give away their work for free). And how despite all the help from the leadership(Meaning, Arranging for biscuits and tea, and then going to home to get sleep) people were not ready to contribute to the company(Meaning, Help the VP make an additional million in yearly bonus).

Ultimately you get what you pay for.

Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by ryandrake on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @01:08AM (#7671724)
Hey, wait, I don't know about you, but I've always thought one of the most rewarding parts of working in tech was being lectured about motivation by someone with 10X my salary, 100X my bonus and 1000X my equity stake :-)
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by praptak on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @06:58AM (#7672539)
No, no - the most rewarding part is proving to them they're an incompetent idiot.

The most rewarding. Not necessarily very rewarding in absolute terms.

Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by goldenkey on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @02:03PM (#7675096)
The reason it's so rewarding is because it's next to impossible to give idiots any self-actualization. And if you do, when you do, their world crumbles into pieces.
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by x0x0 on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @01:24AM (#7671758)
you forgot being lectured about taking risks (or wasting my life on making better advertising) by assholes who've already made theirs and never have to worry about how they're ever going to afford to buy in the bay area, raise a family, pay for college, etc. It's easy to take a risk on a job when you don't need the money...
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by thisone on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @10:41AM (#7673580)
ahh, I remember the day my boss told me the exact amount of happiness and motivation I was to come into work with every day (gestures and happy faces were made to show me the exact amount). (and this was after they missed payroll)
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by gcb0 on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @11:30AM (#7673953)
Yeah, i used to organize hack days. It was mostly one vacation day i managed to get for the team where a few would come in and hack on games or whatever.

Until a vp decided to join. Then hacks had to be about creating products and ideas had to be documented, and someone had to "win".

Now the occasional hack that benefited the company as a side effect of almost free motivation and team building disappeared. Only the most suck Ups juniors appears. And all ideas pitch how much money the company could make but are not really fun or challenging to implement.

Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by kamaal on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @01:08PM (#7674651)
>>someone had to "win".

Completely agree. Once this comes in team mates stop working for each other, instead begin working against each other.

Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by sosuke on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @10:38AM (#7673563)
I'd love to read a story about a 'Hacknight' that was a wild success where everyone got 6 figure bonuses.
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by beachstartup on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @11:59AM (#7674189)
i think that only happens if you work for organized crime syndicates, running ddos extortions for your mob boss.
Re:The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction bu... by judk on Wednesday April 30, 2014 @11:43AM (#7674045)
How could you be small enough for a Hacknight but big enough to have an SVP?