Re:Follow up to the investigation results
by danielweber on Monday April 28, 2014 @03:37PM
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Having read the parent and grandparent comment, I regret upvoting this thread.
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The point is valid and one I hadn't thought of: would employees be truthful knowing that what they say will be reported to the company?
I like to think that I would, but none of us know how we would react until put in that situation.
It depends on the nature of authority and the safety of work environment. GitHub-according-to-the-media promotes exactly that. Not forgetting GitHub's engineers are probably good enough to land another job almost immediately after they quit GitHub.
regret all you want. this is NOT a gender issue. It's a classic disgruntled employee issue. it happens all the time, just with less media attention.
How is it not a gender issue when the "disgruntled" employee claims she was harassed because of her gender?
Because both an employee and employer can make whatever claims their want and claims from both sides should be viewed as suspect absent evidence and witnesses. This becomes a gender issue when other people support that claim. Until evidence or a credible witness corroborate the claims, it's a disagreement between an employee and employer. We have zero evidence to support anything more than that at this point. To claim otherwise respects neither science nor due process.
My point is that the allegations are gender-based in nature, which makes this a gender issue by definition.
This did not become a gender issue when "other people support[ed] that claim." This became a gender issue the moment Julie claimed she was harassed because she was a woman. Whether her claims are invalidated or not doesn't change the gender-based nature of her claims--it would simply mean that her claims (which are still gender-based!) are not supported by the evidence.
Is it also a part of that "classic" scenario for one of the founders of the company to be forced out based on the results of an investigation that found "confrontational conduct, disregard of workplace complaints, insensitivity to the impact of his spouse's presence in the workplace, and failure to enforce an agreement that his spouse should not work in the office."? Does that always happen when some random disgruntled employee talks shit about a company on Twitter?