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Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by jhancock on Saturday August 15, 2009 @09:10PM (#765446)
If I can't use it as a programmer's workstation as well as a simplified desktop, its of no use to me. I realize their target audience may be thin consumer devices, but if they want good stuff dev'd on it, developers need to work directly on it as well. Time will tell.
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by UpFromTheGut on Saturday August 15, 2009 @09:43PM (#765478)
"... but if they want good stuff dev'd on it"

I think this completely misses the point. Applications are web apps. You're not supposed to dev for the OS.

Edit: formatting

Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by jhancock on Saturday August 15, 2009 @11:21PM (#765581)
nope, wasn't missing the point at all.

Imagine if you will, I'm developing a webapp. I want to target ChromeOS users. I could run a separate VM to test on, but no, I want to dev and test on one system for the most part. I want my app framework stack and all the tools running on this thing and use the web browser to look things up on localhost, right.

Also, if this is to end up being a good open source citizen and google doesn't expect to do _all_ the work, developers need to be able to work on the platform as developers and not use it remotely to test and debug.

Thats' what I 'm talkin' 'bout ;) I get the whole HTML 5 and Web 2.0++ thing.

Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by wmf on Sunday August 16, 2009 @01:28AM (#765702)
For testing you use Chrome on a real OS.
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by jhancock on Sunday August 16, 2009 @03:51PM (#766594)
I probably didn't make myself very clear in the last post.

Lets say ChromeOS gets put on netbooks and is a solid option compared to a Windows 7 or Linux netbook. Am I, a hacker, going to use such a device? No, I have more to do than just use webapps. So as a hacker, its of little interest to me unless I can also use a good subset of linux dev tools.

Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by freetard on Sunday August 16, 2009 @04:10AM (#765850)
Right, so iphone and android devs develop directly on the phones, otherwise there wouldn't be any apps...
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by UpFromTheGut on Monday August 17, 2009 @01:37AM (#767433)
I see your point now, thanks for elaborating. As it stands, I use my desktop for dev work, which I wouldn't think of putting Chrome OS on, but, I still am eager to put it on my laptop.
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by blhack on Sunday August 16, 2009 @12:51AM (#765665)
Uhm...it runs linux.

cd emacs && ./configure && make && make install

Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by allenbrunson on Sunday August 16, 2009 @01:00AM (#765679)
yes, but it may not resemble the linux you've come to know and love. they've already said that it has a custom window manager, i.e., not X11. so who knows what else they've left out.
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by GeneralMaximus on Sunday August 16, 2009 @02:56AM (#765762)
X11 is not a window manager. X11 provides the low-level API for drawing to the screen and for interfacing with input devices. Metacity (GNOME), KWin (KDE) etc. are window managers. IIRC, X11 does offer a very basic window manager, but nobody actually uses that.

A new window manager shouldn't be a problem. If it behaves properly, you will hardly notice the difference.

It will actually be interesting if they manage to replace X11. AFAIK, many people hate X11 to the core. Heck, the Qt and KDE developers refuse to work around X11 bugs, hoping that pressure from users will somehow cause the X11 devs to fix them. Of course, I don't know the full situation, since I stopped paying attention to politics in the Linux world a while ago.

Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by blhack on Sunday August 16, 2009 @11:07AM (#766173)
Yes, X11 does come with a very very basic window manager.

It's been a LOONNGGG time (I switched to windows XP) since I have had to install one, but I believe you can see it by by taking

     exec $foo
out of your x11rc, then running startx. Right clicking will get you an xterm, and you can launch things that require a GUI from there...
Re:Google Chrome OS Screenshots? by allenbrunson on Sunday August 16, 2009 @03:59AM (#765836)
yeah, i know that. but if they took out X11, then it stands to reason that all the standard window managers went with it.