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Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by gwillen on Thursday April 24, 2014 @05:51PM (#7643302)
The engineers -- the ones down in the trenches -- practically revolted over it.

The decision was purely from On High, i.e. managerial. It came down from the highest levels.

Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by wpietri on Thursday April 24, 2014 @08:03PM (#7643916)
And that right there strikes me as a symptom of a deep problem.

I think the best use of executives is to support people in the trenches, because they're closest to the actual work. That support can include thoughtful questioning, advising, and mentoring. But when it becomes controlling, it often gets ugly.

I just happened to chat today with a guy who built a large and successful construction company up from nothing. He said that his philosophy was always to hire good people and support them. Eventually it was running well enough that he got bored with it and sold it to the employees. He's now starting an incubator for manufacturing businesses because for him the fun part is helping people get things going. I think he'll be successful, because handing down decisions on high is entirely uninteresting to him.

Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by arkj on Friday April 25, 2014 @01:27AM (#7644902)
sounds interesting! who is this guy? or he prefers to be anonymous?
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by wpietri on Friday April 25, 2014 @02:39AM (#7645040)
I'd feel weird naming him without asking. But if you want to read more about this sort of approach, there's a book called Servant Leadership, plus a lot of literature around it. It's also the basic approach in Lean Manufacturing.
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by arkj on Friday April 25, 2014 @09:54AM (#7646439)
Thanks for the lead.
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by walshemj on Thursday April 24, 2014 @06:54PM (#7643618)
Who strangely enough for people who presumably know a lot about the internet and online didn't seem to understand why people might have completely different online personas and identities.

I have friends from the pre Internet online communities (telecom gold and Prestel) who would probably not even know my real name as we went by handles I even have a dedication using that name in a booker (think uk version of the Pulitzer prize) shortlisted authors book about that time "cybergypsies" by Indra Sinha.

Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by kibwen on Thursday April 24, 2014 @06:40PM (#7643563)
Glad to hear it. I apologize to Google's engineers for my uninformed implication.
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by dredmorbius on Thursday April 24, 2014 @09:45PM (#7644285)
I wish more had protested more strongly or simply walked.

I know it's easy to project actions on others, but really, that was a BAD decision.

Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by rachelbythebay on Friday April 25, 2014 @01:52AM (#7644936)
Unfortunately, not everyone had that sort of mobility. Mortgage holders, people on visas who needed to find another sponsor (and couldn't just go anywhere) and the rest have a harder time moving on.

That has to suck: knowing something is rotten but having to stick with it due to external constraints.

Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by merrua on Friday April 25, 2014 @06:10AM (#7645613)
If they had full freedom to move around in the company, it would have become obvious as people would have bailed from the project.
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by yuhong on Friday April 25, 2014 @03:46PM (#7648648)
Can you write an article on Vic Gundotra's resignation and the problems at Google that needs to be fixed?
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by dredmorbius on Thursday April 24, 2014 @09:44PM (#7644279)
And that's why I now perceive Google to be rotten from the head.
Re:Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company by shankysingh on Friday April 25, 2014 @02:37AM (#7645037)
Personally I feel, best of the companies can take rotten decision sometimes,specially when they are reactionary. IMHO That doesn't mean we can generalize it.