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Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by AndrewDucker on Friday August 14, 2009 @11:50AM (#763238)
Oh for goodness sake. Time Travel _does not exist_. Therefore you can't get anything wrong about it, except including it in the first place.

If you're allowing them to have time travel then you can only quibble about internal inconsistencies, not inconsistencies with the real world.

Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by derefr on Friday August 14, 2009 @04:02PM (#763726)
Geeks like to make "minimum assumptions," and then work everything else out from those. For example, the Minovski (or however you spell it) Particle is the only real change you need in physics before Gundams start looking like a good idea. If the emergent properties of the world, as shown through the work, cannot be deduced from the single "axiomatic" change, then the movie feels "wrong" to most people, whether they can bring it into their conscious mind or not.
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by sho on Friday August 14, 2009 @11:58AM (#763253)
You sound awfully sure of yourself.
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by ivankirigin on Friday August 14, 2009 @12:18PM (#763299)
I think his point is that this is like having a debate about how hyperspace works in Star Wars, or how phasers work in Star Trek. The tech is a plot device best assumed to be far outside the reach of today's science.

Part of that assumption is that the current version of physics we understand is incomplete and at worst wrong. There is little use quoting a source proven wrong within the world of the story.

Besides, I came from the future to write this comment, so the article is prima facie wrong.

Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by pg on Saturday August 15, 2009 @03:19PM (#765084)
There is a class of things it's possible to be very sure of.

For example, I feel very sure there's no such thing as blue weight. The expression "blue weight" is syntactically legal, but that doesn't mean it refers to anything. "Time travel" appears to be in the same category. Syntactically legal, but you find that if you try to express precisely what you mean by it, you can't. It's effectively a type error, like asking for the square root of a stream.

Incoherence as a concept is a different sort of impossible from mere technological "impossibility," like e.g. a pill you could take that would let you survive in outer space without a suit. You can say what that means, even if you can't do it. I have never heard a coherent explanation of what "time travel" could even refer to.

Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by ivankirigin on Saturday August 15, 2009 @05:00PM (#765212)
We're travelling through time right now, and not even at a fixed velocity given relativity. That makes the question whether you can control your velocity, not whether you can travel.
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by lg on Sunday August 16, 2009 @06:21PM (#766878)
So we can change the velocity at which we travel through time? To what, 2 seconds per second?
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by ivankirigin on Sunday August 16, 2009 @11:11PM (#767261)
Yes, you can travel two seconds forward in time for what appears to be one second to you. It depends on reference frames and velocities.
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by dkersten on Friday August 14, 2009 @12:36PM (#763323)
If you could travel back in time (not saying anything about forward), would we not have seen evidence of it by now? If you can travel back to a different "time stream" of sorts, then I'd argue its not really the same "time", but rather another one that happens to mirror the one you intended to travel back to (except that you're there when you shouldn't be and any changes you make).
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by blankity_blank on Friday August 14, 2009 @03:33PM (#763665)
RTFA
Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by burke on Saturday August 15, 2009 @03:06PM (#765066)
> 2) You can't visit any time before your time machine was built.

I think this is a very strange assertion to make. I find it more likely that one of the following is true:

1) Time travel is not possible

2) We'll wipe ourselves our before we discover it

Re:What Movies Get Wrong About Time Travel by dkersten on Sunday August 16, 2009 @04:53PM (#766721)
No, the article is retarded. It compares fiction with fact and then goes on about why the fiction is wrong - its fiction! Its not meant to be right. Also, we don't KNOW that what he said is actually how time travel would work, were it possible. So its stupid.