Re:Bret Victor's favourite books
by tootie on Saturday April 12, 2014 @07:28PM
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I thought Godel, Escher, Bach was a total snooze. It was like 800 pages of Hofstadter trying to prove he was clever.
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If you're not into his style, GEB can be a bit perverse, but Hofstadter is genuinely excited by the ideas (and the games and wordplay he uses to convey them). If you look at the sum of his work, its tone comes across as pretty humble - humble for himself, that is; not apologetic for the ideas.
His latest with Emmanuel Sander, "Surfaces and Essences: Analogy as the Fuel and Fire of Thinking", is comparatively much more straightforward and less obfuscated, and still fascinating.
Re:Bret Victor's favourite books
by jzelinskie on Sunday April 13, 2014 @01:14AM
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If you're interested in the Hofstadter's opinions of consciousness, "I am a Strange Loop" is a much, much easier read. I couldn't even penetrate the start of GEB, but I found myself burning through "I am a Strange Loop".
Have a look at the "The mind's I" [1]. It is a collection of essays and other short texts on consciousness, self, AI and strange loops with added commentary by Hofstadter and Dennett.
[1]: http://www.amazon.com/Minds-Fantasies-Reflections-Self-Soul/...
Re:Bret Victor's favourite books
by badman_ting on Sunday April 13, 2014 @05:42AM
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Ha, totally. I often think of that book as a bunch of him saying "hey, isn't this kinda weird/cool?"