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Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by camus2 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @01:33AM (#7564356)
> Why would reliance on Lisp be an issue? It's a basic requirement. Lisp can be learned in 2 hours. If you can't spend 2 hours learning some basic rules, you have no business dabbling in computing.

Yeah right, first you dont know me you are assuming I dont know LISP while i have GCL opened on my computer right now. Second, your kind is the problem, computer science has nothing to do with being able to learn LISP in 2 hours or not.that's good if you did. You must be the smartest computer science guy in the world.

I dont know you, but your message makes me say you are arrogant and bigheaded and i'm not interested in people like you. I'm interested in making knowledge accessible, even for those who "cant learn lisp is 2 hours therefor they have no business dabbling in computing".

You may be smart but i pity your coworkers that need to endure your arrogance.

Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by axman6 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @02:23AM (#7564470)
For such a relatively innocuous and general comment, you're taking this very personally.
Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by camus2 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:00AM (#7564559)
Well at least i'm sure this mahmud guy has better things to do than trolling me on HN now.

I did not come here for a fight just to suggest an alternative version of SICP.

I just dont like trolls and I responded appropriately.

Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by mahmud on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:08AM (#7564587)
You read way too much into my comment. I wasn't trolling.

My position is that if you're involved in computing in any capacity, you will have to learn countless formalisms and languages. And S-expressions are on the more accessible end of the spectrum.

If you and I learned it, so can others. Exclusively seeking out C-like syntaxes will only hinder you, professionally.

P.S. SICP introduces all the Lisp you will need as it goes. Really.

Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by camus2 on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:31AM (#7564667)
> You read way too much into my comment. I wasn't trolling.

yes you are trolling,now go back to wherever you come from,because you're not contributing to any constructive discussion.

Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by jinfiesto on Thursday April 10, 2014 @04:10AM (#7564789)
I'm going to support mahmud here, and suggest that your behavior is the least constructive in this particular sub-thread. He's absolutely right that Lisp is simple and the basic rules can be picked up in an hour or two. He's also right that over the course of a career in computing, you'll have to pick up countless formalisms and languages. Additionally, SICP is not for the faint of heart. It is not an easy text, and the use of Lisp is fairly central to its main point. This is not to say that computing shouldn't be accessible. It definitely should be. That being said, SICP covers intrinsically "difficult" material. There's no substitute for an iota of determination here. If you don't have the determination (not intelligence) to be bothered to learn Lisp, you're not going to be able to complete SICP. It's not going to happen.
Re:SICP taught by Abelson and Sussman [video] by dang on Thursday April 10, 2014 @03:34AM (#7564686)
Please do not address another user this way on Hacker News.