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Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by ThomPete on Monday April 07, 2014 @08:04AM (#7545951)
Can anyone explain to me what wouldn't be possible without HFT? Is HFT allowing for some useful types of investments/capital?
Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by yummyfajitas on Monday April 07, 2014 @08:17AM (#7546003)
Buying a lot of shares at once. I wrote a blog post explaining how to not trade with HFTs if you don't want to:

http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2014/how_to_not_get_ripped...

Quoth a trader: "Let me tell you this as trader with 15 years direct bank and hedge fund execution experience. Your suggestion of using such algorithms would result in me never getting filled even remotely close to where I wanted to get filled."

tl;dr; He wants to buy 10,000 shares right now and HFTs are the only ones offering that.

Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by ThomPete on Monday April 07, 2014 @09:12AM (#7546252)
So its good for the trader who wants to do that. Is there any benefits to the market overall that he wants to do that?

Edit: Can someone explain to me why I am being down voted from asking a question? It seems like every time I get into a discussion with yummyfajitas I am being down voted?

Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by yummyfajitas on Monday April 07, 2014 @10:01AM (#7546496)
Allowing a trader to make large trades makes price discovery happen faster and more accurately. I've written a more detailed explanation on my blog - read HFT apology 1 and 2.

http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/tags/high%20frequency%20tr...

As for the downvotes, I lead a small cult of traders, rationalists and scala programmers - tptacek is my #2 sycophant.

Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by ThomPete on Monday April 07, 2014 @10:07AM (#7546526)
So again the trader not the market/society.

Whats the benefit outside the stock market to society in general? I.e. how is HFT a net profit to other than those involved in HFT?

You are asking people to be specific, can you you?

Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by yummyfajitas on Monday April 07, 2014 @10:17AM (#7546591)
The tutorials I linked to address your questions in detail.
Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by ThomPete on Monday April 07, 2014 @10:26AM (#7546641)
You must be able to give examples.
Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by yummyfajitas on Monday April 07, 2014 @11:49AM (#7547184)
An example is provided in part 2 of the tutorial. Are you demanding I copy&paste it here?
Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by ThomPete on Monday April 07, 2014 @12:09PM (#7547322)
Yes please
Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by tptacek on Sunday April 13, 2014 @04:45PM (#7582942)
o.O

Amusingly: this comment was downvoted 8 minutes after I posted it, despite the thread being 6 days off the front page. :)

Re:A veteran programmer explains how the stock market became... by tptacek on Monday April 07, 2014 @09:29AM (#7546334)
Yes: limit orders provide liquidity, and market orders sap it.