Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler

Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by danford on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:46PM (#7526491)

You're right, how could I forget the iPad, the thing is the business model they have for all of their products is unsustainable. The iPad is doing well now, just as the iPhone did initially, but less and less people are buying the iPhone because the Android environment has had time to develop. Even chromebooks out sold mac books [1] in 2013. A lot of companies allow developers to use Linux too. The fact that people working for large tech companies are allowed to develop for *nix on a macbook is kind of irrelevant. The circle jerk on HN around apple is deplorable, but lets let the down votes commence.

[1] http://www.ibtimes.com/googles-chromebook-outsells-apples-ma...

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by eropple on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:56PM (#7526576)

Are less and less people buying iPhones, or more and more people buying phones? (Not a rhetorical question, I don't know whose numbers to trust for mobile stuff.)

Apple's business is not one that has to own a market to make gobsmacking amounts of money. As such I doubt they see being outsold by Chromebooks as being a serious problem; they've been being outsold in the laptop market forever and are still making yachtloads of cash.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by wsc981 on Friday April 04, 2014 @07:20AM (#7530534)

Sales year on year for Apple phones have increased, but at the same time, market share is slinking, since just so much more Android phones are being sold. See: http://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphon...

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by leoc on Thursday April 03, 2014 @05:41PM (#7527074)

Eh, while it may be accurate enough to say that to a first approximation Apple is an iOS company now, I don't think that's an unsustainable thing to be by tech standards. They may not need new triumphs to be very profitable for a long time: think of the golden decade or so MS had after '95 mainly from milking its already-existing successes.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by gress on Thursday April 03, 2014 @05:33PM (#7526988)

This is simply false. More and more people are buying both iPhones and iPads.

And as to sustainable business models - the iTunes Ecosystem alone is a large as half of Google's entire business and is growing faster.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by 72deluxe on Friday April 04, 2014 @06:26AM (#7530381)

I know Chromebooks outsold MacBooks but I don't think you can compare them. Chromebooks are like disposable cameras. If they are referring to the cheapy plastic things, I wonder if people are buying them as devices to use whilst on the toilet or in areas where mugging is a risk?

Most Chromebooks are glorified phone hardware. Even the one with the whizzbang screen has lousy soldered-on local storage, so it fails as a microcomputer. It essentially is a terminal with a fantastic screen. I certainly wouldn't attempt to use one to develop on (and I mean develop on, not RDP/VNC/SSH to a box elsewhere). Could I write C++ on it for multiple OSes thanks to virtualization on a Chromebook? I know my needs are niche but I don't think Chromebooks compete with MacBooks, even if they look similar-ish and one has outsold the other. Out of interest, have Kindles outsold MacBooks? Would that be the death-knell for MacBooks? Really is comparing Apples and Oranges I think.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by fsiefken on Friday April 04, 2014 @08:24AM (#7530828)

My acer c720p has a haswell processor, 4 GB ram and I'm working from ssd right now. You can dual boot into Linux and develop in rails, vim, x-windows is 3d accelerated. Virtualbox, vmware, libreoffice, postgresql, nginx - everything works. Linux is not as shiny as OSX, but it gets the job done.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by 72deluxe on Friday April 04, 2014 @10:27AM (#7531575)

That's good. I'm not trying to rally for OSX's cause as I develop on all platforms, with Mac OSX only being officially/legally able to be ran on Mac hardware which is why I didn't get a PC for developing on a Mac properly. I did build a hackintosh but found the hardware on MacBooks compelling when I saved up enough.

Do you supplement the internal storage with external? Is it a hassle? My Windows VMs are all 50GB+ so having tiny internal SSD storage is crippling.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by sbuk on Friday April 04, 2014 @04:01AM (#7529937)

Ah. Apple is doomed. I see.

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Re:Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler by mihaela on Friday April 04, 2014 @03:12PM (#7533637)

Chromebook costs 1/10 of the MacBook

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