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Welp tptacek has never seen anything like this so it must be made up!

Obviously tptacek is smarter than the entire NSA. You heard it on HN folks! Nothing to worry about.

Did you ever think that maybe the majority of the Linux community knows better than you?

I think it's just a vocal minority.

It's hard to say that "closed source" even has a community, so of course it's easy to point out assholes in the open source community.

I find (about half the time) submitting an issue on just about any github project run by "professionals" is a good way to be met with hostile behavior. It makes me wonder if the same things happen behind closed doors at places like google, Apple, MS, etc. I read a report a few months back about how the general atmosphere at google was one of pretentious content for fellow employees.

Maybe the tech community needs to get off its high-horse as a whole, including Lennart, who isn't 100% not-guilty of ever being "rude".

What tech related ecosystem has a "friendly" community?

It won't be tolerable until we weed out anyone who might say anything that anyone finds slightly offensive. No jokes allowed.

You think laws made to help people get up from the bottom tier should apply to everyone on the bottom tier and not just people of a certain color? Well you're racist.

Your favorite movie is blazing saddles? Well guess what: you're a racist.

/s

I think everyone should be able to use the same water fountain and no one should be able to cut in line solely based on the color of their skin, but on their level of thirstyness.

According to a lot of people on reddit (and HN) I'm a racist. I thought racism was discriminating against someone based on skin color.

Have these programs been responsible for actually stopping any large scale terrorist attacks?

Is Fedora 21 Alpha my best choice for trying this out?

>The galaxy note is made out of plastic, it wouldn't bend, it would break, if subjected to the same forces.

This video says different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwM4ypi3at0

But will the galaxy S4 bend in your pocket and still be bent when you take it out?

>This is a problem with any object of similar proportions and rigidity when sufficient pressure is applied.

Well they need to change their design then. It's a design flaw.

>SquareTrade found that the iPhone 6 holds up impressively well in drops, spills and slips

But surprisingly they didn't test bends.

Horrible idea.

If you tried to unify them you would have one bloated piece of crap or a desktop 90% of people hate.

I like having the choice between a few good DEs. What I don't understand is why Apple or Microsoft have yet to create a DE that is really better than something from the open source community. Sure each desktop is better at somethings than others, but it's hard to say that the ones that are being developed for proprietary OS's are objectively better than their open source counter-parts. You would think putting all your eggs in one basket would allow you to create a "super OS". Guess not.

Well I know I can't be the only person who had to look this up:

>Teetotalism refers to either the practice of, or the promotion of, complete personal abstinence from alcoholic beverages.

I mean, I kind of inferred, but this is my first time hearing the term.

Anyway, I only drink on special occasion or when I go out to a fancy restaurant. Other than that it's copious amounts of marijuana.

Except it's not open source. If it's not open source then you have no idea what's going on beyond what Apple tells you.

Ask your self:

Would Snowden use this phone? Your answer to this question is the same as the answer to the question "Is this phone secure?"

I guess I'll get downvoted for this sense it goes against the Apple circlejerk, but this issue is more important to me than magic internet points.

Could you expand or provide a link?

But how much did the iphone 4 cost? If you pay $800 over 8 years thats $100 dollars a year. This thing only costs $100 every two years.

Isn't it likely that two years from now the price for a new phone will have dropped? So it could go from ~$100USD to maybe ~$70USD. Even if you upgraded something like an iPhone every 5 years it would cost more though. I could buy these for 10 years at $100 and still only pay $500, which is about what a high end phone costs that lasts half of that 10 year span (maybe).

Anyway, I think a lot of the complaints about not being able to update your OS stem from iPhones turning into bricks.

>At the last conference I attended, ~9/10 engineers were running macbooks

They're both tired tropes. There is a pretty reasonable mix of hardware and software run by 'engineers' and no where near 90% are macs.

edit: https://www.statwing.com/demos/dev-survey#workspaces/2496

That site has some pretty good statistics related to OS usage among programmers and some hardware usage, like iPod/iPhone, which I think is a decent indicator of whether or not these people own macs.

Genuinely curious as somewhat of a novice, can any one give an example of how javascript is insecure in a way that is difficult to fix?

Don't know why you're getting down voted either. My old ipod touch is basically a brick. The battery doesn't last more than an hour, I can't update the OS anymore, 90% of apps aren't for my older version of iOS, and it lags on every input.

I wish I could just install whatever version of iOS it originally came with and use it as an mp3 player. Don't know why iTunes let me update to a version of iOS that my hardware can't handle, but oh well.

I honestly don't understand why apple fanboys get so worked up over this stuff, as if Apple is infallible. I just try to keep my opinions about apple to my self for the most part, at least on HN, because that's the environment the user base here has fostered.

Can't even read relevant tech news on HN if it shows Apple in a bad light, but hey, I can always go to reddit if I want to get a dose of reality relating to Apple.

Well it's hard to say that JS had this much attention in 1995. Let's give swift 20 years and see where it takes us?

Don't know why you're getting down voted, sure Swift has some neat features, but if any other company released something like this that was closed source, no one would really care.

I would have to disagree. It all depends on how you learn JS. I really liked the book JavaScript: The Definitive Guide 6th Ed. which at many points talked about the differences between JS and C. As someone who learned JS as a first language, I find the syntax is close enough to C and C-Like languages to make picking them up fairly easy, but I'm still a novice and while I know JS pretty well I've only dabbled in C, D, and Rust as lower level languages. I found these languages to be almost like "extended" JavaScript because I didn't have many issues reading simple functions, and that's why I think it's a good language to start on, you can learn how to actually read and understand code with C-like syntax which, for me, made understanding lower level C-like code seem a lot easier.

Plus I think JS is fun to use because of how fast you can see your work "come to life". JS is also in high demand.

It's not technically legal in any country because of a UN treaty. I think part of the reason it hasn't 'taken off' in countries where laws aren't enforced/it's decriminalized/etc is because you can't transport it over the border, you can't sell to big clients in America (or anywhere else), the laws regarding distribution on such a large scale aren't clear enough even in places where it is "legal" so no one wants to put all their eggs in the marijuana basket at this point.

Amen Brother.

I imagine a world where closed source software is looked down on in disgrace as unsafe and nonsensical. Soon we're going to see more and more successful closed source software companies switch to an open source model. One day hopefully people will have the knowledge to realize we can code everything our selves. 90% of our goods and services can be augmented or automated. We could and should have 3 hour work days and we should be retiring after 4-5 years.

What about the firefox built-in pdf reader or google docs?

It's like people don't think the same stuff is happening behind closed doors at other large tech companies.

Forget to turn off a mic at a political conference? You get worse stuff than this.

How much training does it actually take to learn the GNOME 3 interface though? I use to train people at a call center how to use an old terminal based DOS application to fill out orders for sausage in 3 8-hour days. But gnome 3 is a lot more simple. Surely 8 hours is enough to teach about work spaces and how to press the windows key?

It's funny you almost never hear about companies having to train staff to use a company smartphone. I guess all smart phone interfaces are pretty similar though.

Gnome 3 works pretty well on my desktop. But I use the keyboard for navigation a lot.

Do windows programmers not know how to use a terminal?

WorldWideWayne thanks for opening my eyes. You sure are smart. :^)

edit: I just had to post this from your comment history, I think we could both use a chuckle:

"I'm the other VIC-20 vote so far and I don't know where my family had gotten that computer. It came with a book of BASIC programs that you could type in but we didn't have have a storage unit (tape drive), so each time I wanted to play a game I had to type the entire program in and run it. Most of the time I asked my mom to type it in for me, but I remember a couple of times that I spent the hour hunting and pecking in order to play my favorite game (Moon Rover or something, I forget the name)."

You still getting mom to type in terminal commands for you?