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Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by sliverstorm on Monday March 31, 2014 @07:16PM (#7505005)
So it's ok only when done to the people you don't like.
Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by zorpner on Monday March 31, 2014 @07:32PM (#7505127)
If you're accusing him of "not liking" bigots, you're probably correct.

Why, specifically, is it okay for Eich to fund the oppression of homosexuals and not okay for people to say that they find that upsetting and therefore would prefer not to use or serve products he's associated with? What level would his bigotry have to ascend to before people were no longer obligated to use these products or, at least, not tell anyone they're not using them and why?

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by jebblue on Monday March 31, 2014 @08:39PM (#7505442)
Google says this about bigotry:

"big·ot·ry ˈbigətrē/Submit noun 1. bigoted attitudes; intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself."

Gays who want to oppress anyone for not thinking like them are also being bigots by that definition. Marriage has been between a man and a woman throughout the history of humans. I think Gays should have legal equality. They can not usurp a word that has had such a clear meaning throughout the core existence of humankind.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by ScottBurson on Monday March 31, 2014 @10:40PM (#7505832)
Marriage has been between a man and a woman throughout the history of humans.

I see this repeated often in these discussions, and it's a breathtakingly arrogant assertion. How the hell do you know? Have you spent years studying anthropology?

In fact, sexual mores have varied quite substantially throughout the thousands of years of human history and the hundreds of civilizations that have come and gone in that time. I think if you actually look into the matter, you'll discover this "fact" you keep repeating is anything but.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by zorpner on Monday March 31, 2014 @10:02PM (#7505696)
Tell me more about this English word that "has had such a clear meaning throughout the core existence of humankind".

Retreating to dictionary definitions does not make a point, nor does asserting that prejudice by an oppressive class against an oppressed class is the same as the converse.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by jebblue on Monday March 31, 2014 @10:23PM (#7505771)
>> Retreating to dictionary definitions does not make a point

Well, yea, actually, it made it quite clearly, hence my post.

>> nor does asserting that prejudice by an oppressive class against an oppressed class is the same as the converse.

Oppression is oppression, elegance and articulation do not change that. Your attempt to say that my belief and understanding of the meaning if a single word describing a single legal institution is oppression underestimates what I was stating originally; that we who believe and understand the meaning of the word marriage are being oppressed by a very vocal, sometimes very vocally belligerent and socially irreverent group in context minimally and notwithstanding.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by zorpner on Monday March 31, 2014 @10:32PM (#7505799)
> are being oppressed

Are you being beaten to death for your sexual orientation? Are you having your fostered children of many years removed from your family? Are you being denied the right to be with your spouse in the hospital or on their deathbed?

You are in no sense "being oppressed". This is the way in which your "oppression" is not oppression, and one of many reasons why retreating to dictionary definitions of words is a cowardly, useless way to argue.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by isleyaardvark on Tuesday April 01, 2014 @11:45AM (#7509116)
Black people would be bigots against racists by that definition. Your interpretation of that word is obviously flawed.
Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by MichaelDickens on Monday March 31, 2014 @09:22PM (#7505571)
Nobody's obligated to use Firefox. The problems arise when a business like OKCupid starts publicly dissuading its users from using Firefox.
Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by Borogove on Tuesday April 01, 2014 @07:46PM (#7512589)
What problem is created by OkCupid dissuading users from Firefox, exactly?
Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by dhmholley on Monday March 31, 2014 @07:41PM (#7505166)
Action against those in positions of power who cause harm to others is meaningfully different to action against those who are already victimised. The first is a movement for social change that increases the net good in the world, the second is simple oppression.

In the same sense, one might say that overthrowing a fascist dictator is more morally justified than overthrowing a peaceful democracy to install said dictatorship. Both are violence against a government, but they exist in different moral contexts.

Re:OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox by baddox on Monday March 31, 2014 @08:09PM (#7505310)
That's how it works for the vast majority of people, who believe that moral truths exist as real attributes of humans or the Universe. Their own morals are right, and all other morals are wrong.