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Re:Clojure 1.6 released by nsxwolf on Tuesday March 25, 2014 @12:51PM (#7467015)
You've failed to establish why a company that uses Clojure wouldn't have engineers that plateau in 2-5 years and need to move into an architectural role or management role.

Are you saying Clojure shops don't need architects? They don't need managers? Everyone just Clojures their way through "hard problems" and individually drives the business in new and more profitable directions? A language enables this?

Re:Clojure 1.6 released by doktrin on Tuesday March 25, 2014 @06:46PM (#7469809)
I agree with this statement. For all intents and purposes, you could replace "Clojure" with "Brainfuck" in the GP's argument and it would make just as much sense.

Sorry, but claiming that a language is "empowering" doesn't somehow magically make anyone who uses it an uber genius.

Re:Clojure 1.6 released by logicchains on Wednesday March 26, 2014 @01:28AM (#7471780)
Anyone who successfully used brainfuck in production would be an ubergenius in my book.
Re:Clojure 1.6 released by sheepmullet on Tuesday March 25, 2014 @07:16PM (#7470026)
I think he is saying the types of companies that use Java are typically big enterprise shops. And it's true that in general they don't have proper career paths for people who want to stay developers. Basically these kind of companies like to treat developers as a commodity.

Developers aren't a commodity and good developers don't want to be treated as a commodity. In the java world this means good developers don't stick around.

Companies that hire Clojure developers are frequently much more progressive about it (because if they weren't they wouldn't be using a language like clojure)