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Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by melling on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:22AM (#7458706)
On CNN a representative from Inmarsat stated that airlines could track direction and speed tomorrow. Airlines simply need to enable the service, which is relatively cheap.

Considering how cheap this service is, shouldn't it become mandatory? Then the question becomes, how do you board a 777 at 600 mph and land it if the crew becomes incapacitated?

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by eli on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:35AM (#7458788)
It's easy in retrospect to say that that should be mandatory, but how often does something like this happen? I bet there are a lot of cheap things we could do to mitigate extremely unlikely tragedies.
Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by melling on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:45AM (#7458849)
I am not looking back, I am looking forward. If it only costs $10/flight, shouldn't it be mandatory? Air France 447 happened 5 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

So, we're talking about more than once per decade.

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by dalai on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:56AM (#7458930)
It only took a couple of days to find where the Air France 447 crashed despite its location. Moreover, I doubt either accident would have been prevented or people would have been rescued if the precise location of the crash was known sooner.

There is some value in knowing early where an accident occurred, but that is rarely a problem. How much is it worth to fix it for the few cases that happen in the middle of nowhere?

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by melling on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:13PM (#7459037)
Your statement is inaccurate:

"While Brazilian Navy authorities were able to remove the first major wreckage and two bodies from the sea within five days of the accident, initial investigation was hampered because the aircraft's black boxes were not recovered from the ocean floor until May 2011, nearly two years later"

If they knew where the plane went down, it wouldn't have taken 2 years to find the flight data recorders. The "pingers" on the recorders lasted for about 30 days, which should be plenty of time, if you know where to look.

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by enscr on Monday March 24, 2014 @12:00PM (#7458960)
The cost of rescue & recovery is substantial. That money could be preemptively used to subsidize the tech that affects flight safety.
Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by twoodfin on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:32AM (#7458766)
Then the question becomes, how do you board a 777 at 600 mph and land it if the crew becomes incapacitated?

If (extremely hypothetically) it turns out that this disaster could have been preventable if there had been some way for someone outside the aircraft to assume control, the tradeoff to be examined would be the benefits vs. hazards of extensive remote control capability, rather than some kind of commando raid techniques.

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by jvmiert on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:36PM (#7461273)
Of course Inmarsat will encourage airlines to implement this. I believe it is in their interest as it makes them extra money and wouldn't cost them that much more. The senior vice president for external affairs claims it costs about a dollar an hour (www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26723980). I'm no expert and pretty clueless but to me this doesn't sound like a trivial cost on a fleet of about 100 aircraft.
Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by InclinedPlane on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:49AM (#7458886)
If someone on the flight is conscious and able to operate the controls of the plane then the chances are high it can be landed safely. It is possible for a ground crew to talk someone through landing a plane, a lot of the work is automated and as long as there isn't a cross wind the landing itself is fairly easy.
Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by Shivetya on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:49AM (#7458880)
no, the question become, how to we land it without crew intervention or prevent such an occurrence where a crew or passengers can put a plane in harms way?

Can their be parameters using a known flight plan that prevent the computers from permitting actions that are contrary to the safe operation of the plane without notification of someone, if not possible prevention there of? (giving some leeway to have on board circumvention - two station bypass no adjacent/password/etc)

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by hdevalence on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:57AM (#7458935)
No. It's not possible to prevent a malevolent pilot from destroying the aircraft.

On the other hand, pilots need to be able to be in total control of the aircraft, including the ability to shut off any system on board. (See Swissair 111). In an emergency, you don't have time to mess about with two station bypass/etc.

Re:MH370 assumed to have crashed with no survivors, says Mal... by EliRivers on Monday March 24, 2014 @11:54AM (#7458912)
Get the meatbags out of the cockpit and leave flying to the experts :)