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Re:The One True Text Editor by almost on Thursday August 06, 2009 @07:45AM (#745230)
I'm an Emacs user but I do sometimes commit the heresy of looking at Vi and wondering. Not that I'd ever want to leave the wonderful environment I have in Emacs with my large (and growing) collection of customizations but the modal editing and compossable commands do look like they could be pretty cool once you get used to them ("7 habbits of effective text editing" shows some pretty cool stuff).

So anyway, has anyone used Viper much? I notice it has WIZARD mode which claims to keep all of your Emacs customizations and keys working. So is Viper just for Vi refugees in an Emacs world or might it be useful for a Emacs user wanting to see what it's all about?

Re:The One True Text Editor by jrockway on Thursday August 06, 2009 @09:20AM (#745374)
It is not for Vi refugees. It works too much like Emacs.

As a hardcore Emacs user, I am seriously tempted by Viper. It is all the good stuff about vi, but without having to use vi (or give up anything in Emacs). I have tried it, and it is not exactly what I want, but it is certainly close. (I have used Vim, and it is everything that I don't want.)

Think of Viper as vi + emacs, where Vim is vi + <something else>. This is why Vim users don't like Viper.

Re:The One True Text Editor by projecktzero on Thursday August 06, 2009 @10:44AM (#745554)
Many times that I hear about Viper, someone brings up Vimpulse which is supposedly more VIM-like where Viper is vi-like.