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Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by joshvm on Saturday March 22, 2014 @03:01PM (#7450346)
This looks nifty, but I think it's a touch overpriced given that you could buy an OLED breakout on eBay for £5 and a tiny Arduino clone for about the same price. If you're at the level of programming the thing anyway, it's not that much more effort to clip two things together and find a library. Granted it wouldn't be in a fancy box, but I would be willing to sacrifice aesthetics to save £20.

I'd be interested to see one with an Atmega32U4 so that you didn't need the USB backpack. Having native USB would make things a lot more compact.

Also it looks like it's going to possibly block the second port on the Pi depending on which one you use.

Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by schappim on Saturday March 22, 2014 @03:09PM (#7450381)
Thanks for your feedback on price. A large part of the $45 is FREE Worldwide Shipping.

A huge point of the MicroView is that it's finished in a way that allows beginners to just plonk it into a breadboard and get up and running with Arduino. It's a bridge so they can ultimately get to the point where they can go to ebay and stitch parts together.

Re: Atmega32U4

We are aware of the Atmega32U4 but, we really wanted to build an Arduino in a chip form-factor. We'll be taking into consideration the Atmega32U4 for future versions.

Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by DHowett on Saturday March 22, 2014 @04:20PM (#7450714)

    A large part of the $45 is FREE Worldwide Shipping.
I think that's a disingenuous use of the word free. It's more like subsidized worldwide shipping, or normally-priced worldwide shipping paid into by everybody (even locals).
Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by joshvm on Saturday March 22, 2014 @04:57PM (#7450869)
In that case is there any benefit in waiting until you have widespread adoption and/or local distribution?

Pricing is always going to be a delicate balance. On the one side you want things to be simple for beginners - and in this regard Arduino is right up there - but on the other hand it needs to be affordable. To be clear, I think this is a great looking product and I'll probably get one.

One of my hangups with the Arduino ecosystem in general is that you can buy the core for $20 or so, but you're stung when you buy any of the shields to go with it. This has kept me to using plain AVRs or 'minimalist' Arduino boards with just the bootloader. It got to the point where I taught myself PCB design because it was cheaper to make my own breakouts and buy the components from Farnell/Digikey.

Does the 32U4 really limit you that much? It comes in a QFN44 which is ridiculously small - I have a Sparkfun Pro Micro which fits into a breadboard with room to spare (and could be shrunk further if you removed the silkscreen labels). USB would possibly add a bit to the length, but it would fill a niche.

Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by Squonk42 on Sunday March 23, 2014 @07:45AM (#7452989)
Given that: - ATmega328P AVR CPU is ~$2 / 5k units - a 64 x 48 monochrome OLED display is ~$2 (<http://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-66-inch-oled-64-x-48-Amoled...) - Given its small size and simple shape, I estimate the mold for the enclosure to be ~$2000, so < $0.50 per unit

We are speaking of a $5 cost. Ok, let's get a margin and double this figure.

Even counting for Premium Worldwide shipping, I can't reach the listed price.

Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by polshaw on Saturday March 22, 2014 @04:49PM (#7450824)
>a touch overpriced

This is what I think of almost every 'hot new thing' on kickstarter, and they invariably smash through their targets without batting an eyelid, as this one has done (over 6.5x goal with 25 days left). Price aside for a moment, it looks great.

Re:MicroView: Chip-sized Arduino with built-in OLED Display by joshvm on Saturday March 22, 2014 @05:01PM (#7450886)
And they managed it without "early bird" deals which is highly commendable.