Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by joehillen on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @08:15PM
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But it is faster. It's both faster to compiler and faster to run. I think it's a valid reason to prefer Haskell.
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Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by nomad42184 on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @08:36PM
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Except that it isn't faster at runtime (http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?t...).
Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by Pacabel on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @09:55PM
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If you want to prove your point, using totally unrealistic micro-"benchmarks" such as those is by far the worst way about doing so. You're better off giving no evidence whatsoever than you are referring to those.
Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by yen223 on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @11:10PM
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Are there any more realistic benchmarks that we can refer to? Because I've read a lot about how Haskell supposedly runs faster because of its purity, but I've not seen a lot of evidence actually supporting that notion.
"[B]etter off giving no evidence" than pointing to measurements that provide a known context -- source code, implementation version, command lines, measurement scripts...
Nonsense.
Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by profdemarco on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @11:03PM
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Almost all the Haskell entries in the shootout are just using the FFI to call into C libraries. None of them are remotely close to idiomatic Haskell.
Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by nomad42184 on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @09:59PM
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Everyone knows, of course, that these benchmarks don't tell the whole story. However, it's ludicrous to assert that providing no evidence is better than providing a array of microbenchmarks across a variety of different languages, machines and implementations. Further, the assertion that Haskell is "faster" (in some blanket sense) than Scala is completely evidence-free.
Re:Consider the Nimrod Programming Language
by nomad42184 on Wednesday March 12, 2014 @11:09PM
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@profdemarco --- sure; and they're still not faster than their Scala counterparts.