Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by arethuza on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @10:50AM
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Out of interest, how many other car models have been a success in the United States market then sold successfully in Europe?
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Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by dangrossman on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @10:57AM
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About 1 in 5 Model S cars coming off the Tesla assembly line headed to Europe last year. They're not starting from nothing; the Model S was the best-selling car of any make in Norway, and has sold at least hundreds of units into 6 European countries. Small numbers compared to the incumbents, but certainly high enough to matter to Tesla which only sells some thousands of cars each quarter.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by arethuza on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @11:14AM
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I was just curious about whether Tesla have achieved something that has failed other US manufacturers - create a car that appeals in the US home market and in Europe.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by pjc50 on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @11:21AM
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Tesla lack the traditional ugliness and fuel inefficiency of US cars; the model S looks like a Jaguar but is cheap to run. Nor is it too large.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by arethuza on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @11:26AM
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I was trying to be diplomatic about why I thought US car models hadn't traditional done well in Europe.... :-)
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by gambiting on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @12:37PM
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"traditional" US cars - so massive SUVs and trucks with 7.0L V8 engines are not popular because of their sheer size(a car which is "normal" by US standards, like Dodge Ram, can barely fit on an average UK street), fuel economy and insurance - people buy cars with tiny engines like 1.2/1.6L partially because they are more efficient,but also because owning a car with a >2.0L engine would make your insurance and road tax huge(and I am saying that as a person who used to own a 4.4L V8 car in the UK).
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by rayiner on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @02:25PM
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A Dodge Ram is not a "normal" sized car even in the U.S., and will be quite out of place in say Philadelphia.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by gregpilling on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @06:01PM
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Rams are the fifth best selling passenger vehicle in the US. http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/06/top-10-best-selling-vehic... . As the owner of one, I do agree it can be hard to park.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by sp332 on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @05:01PM
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I know a bunch of people who drive Ford F-150's as their primary vehicle, including commuting and just driving around on weekends.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by brc on Wednesday March 05, 2014 @05:56AM
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M62 engine FTW!
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by thrownaway2424 on Wednesday March 05, 2014 @12:41AM
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You mean like the Ford Focus, which sells more units in Europe every year than Tesla has made, ever?
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by thrownaway2424 on Wednesday March 05, 2014 @12:29AM
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C'mon. Tesla was the "best selling car" due to delivering years worth of orders all in the 2nd half of last year, and topped the sales figures only if you aggregate them by model rather than make. Even in the months where the S was the top selling model, Ford sold more cars in Norway than Tesla.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by kalms on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @11:03AM
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I get the feeling it's doing fine in Denmark as well. Seeing them more and more each day.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by mercurial on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @06:01PM
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Haven't seen any around Århus but I'll keep an eye out.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by kalms on Monday March 10, 2014 @08:33AM
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Aarhus* :P
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by mediaman on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @12:21PM
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I was going to suggest the Ford Focus, but it turns out that Ford actually launched that in Europe before the US.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by Kurtz79 on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @07:55PM
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I remember how on my first visit to the US one of the things that surprised me most was how different car models were from the ones in Europe, I couldn't recognize a single one (not to mention the monster sized SUV and trucks that I never saw before).
I believe the difference in distances, city planning and fuel price play quite a role in consumer preference on the two sides of the ocean.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by gregpilling on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @05:59PM
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The first global car like that was the Model T http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T#First_global_car
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by chiph on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @12:24PM
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The last time I was there, I saw a fair number of Jeeps. Wranglers and Grand Cherokees.
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by arethuza on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @12:32PM
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Jeep was actually my own guess as to the only US manufacturer to sell cars in any volume and they don't exactly sell very many... (e.g. in the UK in 2012 there were three times as many Porsche's sold as Jeeps).
Re:Tesla Announces Ambitious European Expansion Plans
by thrownaway2424 on Wednesday March 05, 2014 @12:47AM
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Where does this strange meme arise that US car companies don't sell cars in Europe. Jeep the "only US manufacturer to sell cars in any volume" what? Ford and GM collectively control about 15% of the European car market.
For perspective, Kia sells TWENTY TIMES more cars in Europe than does Jeep. Kia's market share is ~2%.